Old Central Thread.

[Flak]

Am I blind or did the 'This forum died? THat's bad!' thread dis-APPEAR?!

Well, I was gonna post in it since it was kind of like a general thread, but eh.

Happy thanksgiving all readers and writers!

[Pretzel]

Happy thanks giving, and yes, i think the thread did dissaper.

[Inquisistor7]

Odd that the other thread vanished. Well, since it is gone I might as well comment on the state of the forum a little. It is true that, when compared to the past, the FFF appears to be approaching death's door. I am of the mind, however, that comitted writers and responisve readers, in tandem with dedication, can keep this place afloat and make it a good place to come to.

[Flak]

I remain of the mind that the place is healthier than it was a month ago, and we should give thanks for that. And eachother a pat on the back.

We can bring it back to living quite easily from here.

[BraveLiver]

Wasn't Thanksgiving a month ago?

[Flak]

No, it was yestermorn.

[BraveLiver]

Oh yeah! I forgot that there are two different Thanksgiving dates in North America. October and November.

[Pretzel]

thanksgiving in Canada is in October. US is Novemember 25. Im Both, so i get 2 thanksgivings : )

[Flak]

Meh, I'm USian. I don't pretend to know what I don't, I don't hide my ignorance. Happy belated thanksgiving, Candians.

[Pretzel]

Your USian?? COOL. ME TO. USian PRIDE? Wheres USia? By The Way?

[KrewL RaiN]

This forum may be dying a slow painful death, but I see Flak has done his best to keep it alive and taking a leader role here

[Bullroarer]

Flak has kept this forum alive, what about me, am I chopped liver?

[rålfwårg]

Sticky...?

[Inquisistor7]

Flak has kept this forum alive, what about me, am I chopped liver?

Hmm, bull liver, never tried it before...

Anyway, I don't know if I'd go so far as to say that Flak alone has kept this place alive. Don't get me wrong I love Flak, but indeed we would be remiss to forget the continuous contributions of Bullroarer. As for who is the leader, I think that Flak has been taking a more prominent place in this forum.

[KrewL RaiN]

Flak has kept this forum alive, what about me, am I chopped liver?

Just noticed Flak seems to have taken a leaership roll here, overcourse peoples writngs also keep it alive, sorry if I offended

[Bullroarer]

No offense taken, I was being sarcastic.

[SuRReAL OrC]

Hurray for Flak! :bigclap:

[rålfwårg]

Hurrays will go into action when you leave, surreal.

[Flak]

Hey, I'm an aspiring mod, but I've never claimed to be a mod nor to rule these forums. Bull and Inq have done very well, if it were just me, this forum would be dead as a dead animal. (Redundant, no?)

Not to mention countless others. The struggle of this forum may not be placed on the shoulders of any one member.

[SuRReAL OrC]

Screw off, ralfwarg. :y-evil:

[KrewL RaiN]

Surreal needs an anti flame sheild, me thinks people are stalking him with flamethrowers omg hax

As long as I can read it ill come, there was some complicated stuff here, like what Magical Cow wrote that made me read it over a few times to get it :y-dunce:

[Flak]

Sticky...?

Sticky't!

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[rålfwårg]

Screw off, ralfwarg. :y-evil:
You're still here...?

[SuRReAL OrC]

Flak would make a great mod, if he was online more.

[Flak]

Oh, Surreal, I'm online tons. The last two days the forums were down. That's all.

[rålfwårg]

Flak would make a great mod, if he was online more.
Why are you not dead?

[A-Thousand-Lies]

This is not the type of activity a struggling community needs.

Both of you; leave it.

[BraveLiver]

Agreed. Nobody cares about the argument, so please take it somewhere else.

BTW-Sorry for lack of being here for a while, but I had no writing inspirations.

[AlarStormBringer]

Um. Me am update story am soon, but me am too sleep sleep tired. No killey me! >.<

[rålfwårg]

Now- on a brighter note, with Rush putting some effort into the forums, we just might have a mod (for once) so maybe THEY* can enforce my rules**.


*Flak/Bullroarer

**Suggestions/guidelines

[Flak]

And perhaps that mod will delete the spam in this thread and perhaps that mod will sticky your rules. That mod, no doubt, will be:

Rushster

Administrator

*


Join Date: Jun 2002

Posts: 12







Modertator


Hi Flak

I was wondering if you would be interested in moderating the FF forum? Drop me a PM back if you think you would like to look after it

Cheers
Rush

[Pretzel]

Wow. That got very off topic. Started as a simple 'Happy Thanksgiving' and regreting that the other 'Forum is Dying' thread got deleted to a Ralf hates Flak discussion. Oh well


GO FLAK

[Inquisistor7]

All hail Flak, moderator of the FFF!

[Bullroarer]

Wow Rush actually got my PM suggestion on Flak becoming Mod.

[Flak]

You...recommended me? *is shocked* Wow. I thought you didn't like me after what happened in KCG's warrior thread...


Oh well, rock on! Anyhow yeah, I'm a mod now, and I'm gonna be cleaning everything up and stickying three threads-

This
Rules
Poetry Column

[Flak]

For a while now, there have been really good stories on these forums that weren't being actively written in but were being read by many. After the last few semi-forum wipes, I was wondering if anyone felt the old stories should be brought back. Reposted. Should they be stickied so they aren't lost again? Or just brought back. Or not at all.

One example I'm thinking of is Sumiyoshi's Odd Bedfellows. And of course, if the author chooses, they may take down/ continue to work on the writing at their leisure.

[Bullroarer]

Well I did find you a bit arrogant, but then again who am I to judge you when I myself am an egomaniac. Besides, I did not come to this forum to make enemies. I really thought about Krewl Rain's and Inquisistor7's words and then thought maybe Rushster would listen to me if I sent a recommendation. Besides, you made some valid posts concerning my poems and stories.

[Flak]

Eh, thanks for the vote.

Though you can imagine how shocking it was for me to receive that PM. I'd asked in June- 6 months ago. I thought the matter was dead and gone.

[rålfwårg]

I was wondering if anyone felt the old stories should be brought back. Reposted. Should they be stickied so they aren't lost again? Or just brought back. Or not at all.
Ask the writers to bring them back (if they're still here, I understand a fair few have moved on) and then have them repost them. Don't sticky them though, those stories are good enough to bump themselves and the last thing you want is to crowd the top of the page.

[Flak]

Good idea. I can also bump them myself if the need arises. In additon, the forums are more stable now, so second page threads shouldn't go BOOM every other day anymore. :y-thumbsu

[AlarStormBringer]

Can you bring back the old poetry thread? There were over ten pages of poetry there, some of it mine, alot of it BR's, alot more of it everyone elses.

[Flak]

Did anyone save a back up copy? No? Too bad then.

[AlarStormBringer]

What? You mean the forums don't harddrive all their threads?

[rålfwårg]

They did until the forum crash of june 03. Since then everything just dies, unless Rush saves it.

[Flak]

Yeah....that's how it is...

[rålfwårg]

My computer just wiped all my fanfics, including Galaloth, Orc Story and what i've done on The Bulb :(

[Pureauthor]

See, when I started out, I was a young, foolish person, and in my naivete, believed the forum would remain stable. I wrote my work and posted using only the 'Reply' function.

Came the Great Sundering of the Forum, and lo, I was left storyless.

Or else my work would be up here every single time I came back to this site.

[rålfwårg]

Yes- but mine wasn't just on the forum, it was on my laptop (which as of late has become ******ed) and I can't exactly put things on the university computers.

But anyway- how are plans for your story, PureAuthor?

[Pureauthor]

I'm giving until Monday, because I'll be away during that time anyway, so any stragglers should have plenty of time to sign up.

Once back, I'll look through the works, and begin. That's about it.

If my school load remain relatively light in the coming year (yeah right, it's the year I graduate from high school), I'll consider working a second fic.

[Flak]

Pureauthor, you planning on using all the characters submitted? I think you should only use those submitted by FFF regulars... :y-evil: I.E. no Crazywhiteboy or Innerfire.

Oh, and Ralf, I find your avatar subtly annoying.

[Nio the Namless]

What good news that finally a mod has graced these forums! Hopefully the few stickys alone will help the forum


and perhaps I can try another story some time......

[Shindog]

[hopeful voice] A story about the Waking Dream perhaps? [/hopeful voice]

[Nio the Namless]

[hopeful voice] A story about the Waking Dream perhaps? [/hopeful voice]
[hopeful voice]Yes[/hopeful voice]

(the only issues are creative power and time... and I think I got enough creativity however, father time been kicking my arse!)

[Flak]

Good luck, my dreaming friend.









Oh good lord, the shindog has graced the FFF! I am humbled.

[Shindog]

You humbed huh? What's that like?

Actually I've "graced" this forum quite a bit as reader. Never posted anything though. I'm not much for writing fanfics but I may have an original story or two for you in the works. Does everything here have to be fantasy?

One of these days I'm going to finish reading your story Master Flak. I liked the first two posts but school's kept me from getting any farther. Over the break maybe.

[Flak]

No, things don't need to be fantasy. They could be autobiographical even.

Oh, and I encourage you to post. Please. It makes the authors feel warm and fuzzy inside. Also, if you're looking for a good read, read the posts in Kilrogg's Space thread. They're good.

Oh, and if you think you'll finish reading my story, think again. I've posted thirteen chapters...out of forty one. But if you want me to feel good, read Gauntlet and the Broken Angel! It's relatively short if you read the whole thing, only five posts, one of them an out-of-narrator intro and one of them an in-narrator intro. Both intros add up to less than an entire post.

One warning though, one of the posts is very graphic and will upset you if you're easily upset by horror.

[Inquisistor7]

Well, since this is a forum based upon writing and all that good stuff, I have a question to pose about the pacing of a story and how that ties into description. Should one, when describing an event or course of events, take the care to be thorough, or should one place emphasis on the crucial parts of said event. That is, if one spends a lot of time depicting a scene then perhaps it will get bogged down but if one sacrifices such a degree of thoroughness then the scene ,ight be unlcear. So, how does one strike a balance, or does one choose what to do based upon the situation?

[Shindog]

That really depends on what you're writing and what you're purpose is. Also personal preference and style play a huge part. Here's my two cents worth.

For short stories, especially ones that are under five pages, description should be left to a minimun. This is for the sake of brevity.

In novels however you have more pages to work with and the reader's more dedicated. This gives you the chance to paint pictures with you're words that you wouldn't normally be able to.

Fantasy writing is different from writing stories that take place in the real world because you can't assume that people know everything that you're writing about. This means more descriptions have to be given. Don't fall into the trap of thinking you have to descibe everythign though, if you do the reader doesn't get to use his imagination.

That's the key, in my opinion, you never want to kill the readers imagination but you still want to give it enough to work with. It's a matter of balance I say. Pat McManus, who is one of the greatest short story writers alive today says that if you discribe just enough, the readers imagination will take them places you would never go, it lets them build the world around there own exereinces which you could never write.

As for my personal style, I like to paint a scene at the beginning with just a few sentences to create an image in the mind and a feeling in the heart of the reader. After the stage is set in their mind though, I try not to make them change in by adding anything new or changing things.

That's my take on it. Any others?

[Flak]

Well, since this is a forum based upon writing and all that good stuff, I have a question to pose about the pacing of a story and how that ties into description. Should one, when describing an event or course of events, take the care to be thorough, or should one place emphasis on the crucial parts of said event. That is, if one spends a lot of time depicting a scene then perhaps it will get bogged down but if one sacrifices such a degree of thoroughness then the scene ,ight be unlcear. So, how does one strike a balance, or does one choose what to do based upon the situation?

Shindog's take seems pretty accurate. There can't be a single rule everyone follows in every situation.

However, there are some very frequent grammar errors I see on these forums that make me feel upset. As writers, we are showing off the english language- should we not at least write correctly? Matters such as those mentioned above are matters of style or preference, but grammatical mistakes I feel should be corrected as a whole. No, I'm not being a grammer nazi- but you're and your are two VERY different things, as are its and it's. It throws me off to read something with mistakes like that in it, and I propose a forum-wide effort to reduce the number of such mistakes.

[Inquisistor7]

Shindog: makes sense to me. Now that you mention it I had not really thougt about the reader's imagination in that light.

Flak: grammar is necessary. I myself recommend that one should revise and read over (to find errors in) an installment (of a work) at least 3 times.

Also, for those who read my own little story, I would have posted a new chapter by now, but I have a lot of school work and wrestling devours my energy. I mean, I have the next chapter "completed" but I think it needs some tweaking (and so it is not up to snuff).

[Flak]

I eagerly await it, my inquisistive friend.

[Clicks]

I have some ideas but i'm not sure if i'm committed to running them through.

[Flak]

Clicks returns! Welcome back! Well, if you aren't comitted, you can always start something, and if you run outta steam, you'll have shared something with us.

[Pretzel]

Shindog's take seems pretty accurate. There can't be a single rule everyone follows in every situation.

However, there are some very frequent grammar errors I see on these forums that make me feel upset. As writers, we are showing off the english language- should we not at least write correctly? Matters such as those mentioned above are matters of style or preference, but grammatical mistakes I feel should be corrected as a whole. No, I'm not being a grammer nazi- but you're and your are two VERY different things, as are its and it's. It throws me off to read something with mistakes like that in it, and I propose a forum-wide effort to reduce the number of such mistakes.

I agree completely. One simple way to reduce these errors, at least with stories, is to write them in a writing program. eg: Word, appleworks etc. Most, if not all word prossessing programs have spelling and grammar checks. Then, it is a simple matter of cutting-paste to move it to the forums. I don't care as much for a simple review, or a quick post like the ones on her, but when one is writing a story, they should be showing off. and if you're expecting good reviews, that will throw people off. expecialy flak. a grammer nazi and respected mod.

[Clicks]

There, Symphony of the Ogre is up.

[Flak]

expecialy flak. a grammer nazi and respected mod.

Geez dude. :y-sealed:

[Pretzel]

I appologize. I just like the way "nazi" sounds. and NO! IM NOT A NAZI!
You must admit, you are VERY good at catching spelling and grammar errors. you should be a teacher.
:y-pet:

[Flak]

Quite frankly, I was very offended. I mean, I know you're not calling me a nazi- but just the sound of the word sickens me. My mom's Jewish, and...well...

Anyhow, I might teach, but I'm only fourteen years old, so it'd be a ways off.

[MysticWolf]

Umm, Flak, you do know that grammar is a recent invention right? Before i think the early 1800's there was no defined grammar, in any language, just look at latin if you want an example, So keeping grammar accurate, would actually be creating something new

[Inquisistor7]

Mystic, as interesing as that is, I am afraid that it doesn't matter. Now don't take this the wrong way, I mean, I understand your point, but we still need to have grammar so that things are orderly and understandable. So regardless of when it was created, grammar is still essential.

[Pretzel]

Quite frankly, I was very offended. I mean, I know you're not calling me a nazi- but just the sound of the word sickens me. My mom's Jewish, and...well...

Anyhow, I might teach, but I'm only fourteen years old, so it'd be a ways off.

My sincerist apollogies, I didn't mean to offend you. I as well, im fourteen.

[Flak]

Umm, Flak, you do know that grammar is a recent invention right? Before i think the early 1800's there was no defined grammar, in any language, just look at latin if you want an example, So keeping grammar accurate, would actually be creating something new

Yes, Latin DID have grammar, oddly enough. And age had no relevence, grammar matters to us. English is a garbled language, and without grammar it's totally confusing.

[Team vFv - NOVA]

I like fanfics.

[MysticWolf]

What i was trying to say is that grammar isnt necesarry, punctuations and all arent either. People with any intellegence can discern what you are trying to say. If someone made a story with no grammer, and some1 else of equal intellegence reads the story with grammar it is entirely likely that they will ahve the same reaction to it. Grammer just makes it easier to sort things out, on the other hand, spelling does matter

[Flak]

And I was disagreeing. :y-curtain

[Pureauthor]

duedyoirworgngrmmraisneecssayr

Dude, you're wrong. Grammar is necessary.

Now, kindly tell me which of these you found harder to read.

[MysticWolf]

Well, you made spelling mistakes inthe first one, so it wasnt just grammer mistakes, it was spelling

[Pretzel]

Posting this for pureauther
dudeyourwronggrammarisnecessary

Dude, your wrong, grammar is necessary.

However, the lack of spaces is still a spelling error.
No longer for pureauthor
Grammar includes such things as Its and It's

for example these two things are completely diferent, because of one apostrophy: They're dogs
Their dogs

See. Completely different, bacause of grammar.without grammar you woulndt know if I was calling some1 a dog, or if I was talking about some1s dog.

Grammar is needed.

EDIT:
I was just looking through page two of the FFF and I found Bravelivers this forum is dying. I guess it didn't get deleted

[MysticWolf]

Their and they're are two different words, before grammar was invented people said they are, and there was no real slang, so you are right, it is completely different, it is not even the same word

[Pretzel]

Yet so often when I see one version of the word there/their/they're it is the wrong one. To these forum they seem to be one in the same. Grammar
is The study of how words and their component parts combine to form sentences.

All words are component parts of eachother. Therefore, misusing any word is a contradiction to English Grammar.

[MysticWolf]

But English grammar is something new, that was inveted centuries after the creation of the language. Many new words have been added to the language since it was created, and many dialects have also been formed, the newest, which is the englished used in America, I believe was the first to dialect to have official grammar. The same is true with all languages, grammar is just evolution, something that naturally takes place over time. It was created to make righting and reading easier. Everything humans make, are made tomake are lives easier, or at least that is the general goal.

[Pretzel]

Umm, Flak, you do know that grammar is a recent invention right? Before i think the early 1800's there was no defined grammar, in any language, just look at latin if you want an example, So keeping grammar accurate, would actually be creating something new

so your saying that if somehting is new it doesnt exist? wow.

Grammer is 200 years old according to you, does that mean I, you, Televesion, computers, Telephones, the rules of monopoly, all don't exist simply because they are new? I think not. Grammar has been kept accurate for YEARS as well. Did you go to school? why do you think there's english class. End Yes, there has been defined grammar forever. In many languages. For example in spanish, the word Jugar means "to play" Now I am going to conjugate that verb in the present tense

Yo Juego
Tu Juegas
El Juega
Nosotros jugamos
Vosotros jugais
Ellos juegan

See. Without grammar, any one from 200 years ago would not have been abke to tolk in any person except the invinitive of any verb. Just because us Anglos use play for everything but one tense (I play, you play, he plays, we play, they play) doesn't mean others don't. You have to get your facts straight before saying something like that.

[Inquisistor7]

Well, since I have no school for the next couple of weeks hopefully I will be able to get more accomplished with my story, but because of the nature of this festive season I will make no guarantees.

There is one other things I would like to bring up. Now I hate to nag and get on people's cases and I do not wish to sound overbearing, but can we expect an update to Alar's and Bull's collaberative story sometime soon? It is harldy my place to bolby call for updates, I just don't want it to be forgotten.

One more thing: giving feedback to a story is usually a good thing, so please, if it is at all possible, make our respective authors here feel loved.

[rålfwårg]

Just a thought:

Is there any reason why our benelovent mod has locked the stickied rules thread when it clearly says in the title 'FanFictionForum Rules and General Question Thread'.

Does he not know that it states in the thread that questions pertaining to the rules may be asked in the thread?

Does he not know that people can't ask questions in a locked thread?

Does he not know that he would have been able to avoid question threads wasting valuable forum space if he had left that stickied thread open?

...Or does he just like closing threads in a macho display of mod power?

[Inquisistor7]

You've got a point there ralf. However, it was probably just an oversight on Flak's part. I know that he closes a thread when he thinks that further posting in it would be unnecessary, so he probably thought, not noticing the question part of the post, that any further posting would be extraneous.. Unfortunately, Flak is unable to address this issue at the moment because he is away. I am sure, though, that he will take care of this when he returns at the end of the week.

[Flak]

The thing is, Ralf, I made an honest mistake- when seeing the thread title I assumed it meant the questions you had answered in your post, and I failed to see the sentence about asking questions. Will do.

But here's the problem- you need to stop talking to me like that. It makes it INCREDIBLY hard to apologize for a mistake. You're assuming a lot of things in your post here. First off, you could have just asked- but no, you need to come up with scenario after scenario after scenario, the last one no doubt an attempt to make me look bad.


I'll say this, Ralf. You need to change your attitude.

[Inquisistor7]

Gentlemen, we should just put this misunderstanding behind us. Flak, you have a point that ralf perhaps should have been less harsh, but he was correct that you shouldn't have locked the thread. I realize that there is tension between you two, but nothing good will come from personal attacks and all that. So, in the interests of building a better community, please at least try to be understanding and civil.

I hate to sound so condescending, after all, neither of you are foolish. If, however, I thought that either of you were an idiot then I wouldn't have posted this.

[KillAllZerg]

Been gone for about a year. Last time i checked a little story called "Vengence of the Night Elves" by bullroarer was still here. Where did it go?

[Flak]

I believe he finished it.

[rålfwårg]

The thing is, Ralf, I made an honest mistake- when seeing the thread title I assumed it meant the questions you had answered in your post, and I failed to see the sentence about asking questions. Will do.

But here's the problem- you need to stop talking to me like that. It makes it INCREDIBLY hard to apologize for a mistake. You're assuming a lot of things in your post here. First off, you could have just asked- but no, you need to come up with scenario after scenario after scenario, the last one no doubt an attempt to make me look bad.


I'll say this, Ralf. You need to change your attitude.
Quite a mistake for a moderator.

My attitude towards you wont change- I still have reason to dislike you and that's not going to change until we clear some things up via msn.

[Pureauthor]

I'm sorry, I forgot moderators weren't allowed to be human.

[Kingcrazygenius]

...

He's on to us.

[Flak]

Am I obliged to talk to just anyone on MSN?

If you needed to talk to me on MSN you could have done so at any point for the last weeks. Dislike is not reason for offense.

Pureauthor- KCG is the exception, not the rule. I'm human.

KCG- better silence him :lol:

[KrewL RaiN]

...

He's on to us.

You cant hide in the secret forum forever mooahahahahha

emmm yes, /me pokes me head back in the FF forum after a while :y-crazy:

And KR and Grammer dont mix very well :y-candle:

[Flak]

Woot, the Flak has finished writing the first book of the Hunter Chronicles!

Of course, several weeks before I post the ending...seeing as I need to revise about 30 more chapters.

[AlarStormBringer]

Flak, why'd you close that thread with da n00b in it?! We wanted to post various sarcastic remarks and bring up the subject of Vagrant once more. Yes. Vagrant. The God-Writer of the Fan Fiction Forum. One of few men to finish a story successfully and it be glorious! Vagrant, that one great man who dedicated a very book of his story to me! Vagrant, the ONE person who perservered with his story, until he knew it would one day, FINNALY, BE A PUBLISHED, STORY!! -Cheers and applause are heard.-

That and we wanted to yell at da n00b.

[Inquisistor7]

Way to make us feel bad about vagrant not being here, Alar. ;)

Anyway, it is too bad that he doesn't come here anymore, but I am mroe thankful that this forum is alive and is doing reasonably well.

[Flak]

Flak, why'd you close that thread with da n00b in it?! We wanted to post various sarcastic remarks and bring up the subject of Vagrant once more. Yes. Vagrant. The God-Writer of the Fan Fiction Forum. One of few men to finish a story successfully and it be glorious! Vagrant, that one great man who dedicated a very book of his story to me! Vagrant, the ONE person who perservered with his story, until he knew it would one day, FINNALY, BE A PUBLISHED, STORY!! -Cheers and applause are heard.-

That and we wanted to yell at da n00b.

Because you're not supposed to yell at 'da n00b', and if you wanted to discuss Vagrant this was the place to do so. Sorry but there won't be any Vagrant Hall of Fame threads.

[rålfwårg]

Way to make us feel bad about vagrant not being here, Alar. ;)

Anyway, it is too bad that he doesn't come here anymore, but I am mroe thankful that this forum is alive and is doing reasonably well.
I talk to Vagrant a fair bit these days, if one of the posters here wasn't such a prat, I could probably drop in a word for him to maybe repost some stuff...

[Flak]

I talk to Vagrant a fair bit these days, if one of the posters here wasn't such a prat, I could probably drop in a word for him to maybe repost some stuff...

I don't see what that has to do with posters being prats. I encourage you to try to get him to repost his stuff, if you will. We all like Vagrant.

[AlarStormBringer]

Oh how I would love to once again speak to Vagrant. Do you have any idea if his stories are archived anywhere else?

[AlarStormBringer]

Please close the Desaroth Space Wars thread with zero replies.

[rålfwårg]

I don't see what that has to do with posters being prats. I encourage you to try to get him to repost his stuff, if you will. We all like Vagrant.
Is there any reason why you keep deleting my response to this post?

Note this section, folks: Because so far it just seems you're tampering with my posts in order to hide your shortcomings. Moderate to the rules, not to booost your ego.

Don't tell me what to do, and change your attitude. I'm not banning you again, but I sure as hell don't have to put up with your insolence.

Note: Red text was written by FLAK

[AlarStormBringer]

Is there any reason why you keep deleting my response to this post?

Because so far it just seems you're tampering with my posts in order to hide your shortcomings. Moderate to the rules, not to booost your ego.

This is what ralfy said, incase Flak wants to get editing again. Of course, he might edit mine too which would make this.. obsolete.

[Flak]

This is what ralfy said, incase Flak wants to get editing again. Of course, he might edit mine too which would make this.. obsolete.

I have my reasons. Instead of banning him for offensive mannerisms, I'll just delete his posts if they offend me. There's no such thing as free speech on these forums and he needs to learn that, though I doubt he will (he hasn't yet, and I've talked to him about it before).

And that's all I'm going to say on the matter, as questioning my actions further would be pointless.

Please close the Desaroth Space Wars thread with zero replies.

Did do. Thanks for pointing it out, though I saw it before I saw this. If you ever wonder why something isn't edited the moment it goes wrong, it means I'm not at the computer (school, sleep, Mom's house). But thanks, again.

[Kingcrazygenius]

I'm going to start deleting Flak's posts on the RPG forum when they do not appeal to me. No such thing as free speech :sinister:

[Flak]

I'm going to start deleting Flak's posts on the RPG forum when they do not appeal to me. No such thing as free speech :sinister:

There's a difference between insulting someone and offending them and just saying something. Ralfwarg has, and he admitted to it on MSN, been attempting to insult me, and it has come to the point at which I will no longer stand for it.

But if you REALLY want to delete my posts, go ahead. I won't question you, o mod. :y-mm:

[Kingcrazygenius]

Actually I just wanted to look mean.

[Flak]

Actually I just wanted to look mean.


Oh, ok. *scared look* Help me! Aahhh! The crazy naga beast is after me!!! Uhm... mommy? *pees pants*

[rålfwårg]

There's a difference between insulting someone and offending them and just saying something. Ralfwarg has, and he admitted to it on MSN, been attempting to insult me, and it has come to the point at which I will no longer stand for it.

But if you REALLY want to delete my posts, go ahead. I won't question you, o mod. :y-mm:
How about NOT? See, it's comments like this that make me click the edit button.

Oh, and for posts 105 and 106, they were only four minutes apart. Why don't you just be an example and edit your post instead of clogging up the thread?

[Flak]

Oh, and for posts 105 and 106, they were only four minutes apart. Why don't you just be an example and edit your post instead of clogging up the thread?

It doesn't clog up the thread, but if you insist. :y-mm:

[Forged Essence]

Hi, I'm new...just registered like...um...ten minutes ago I guess...

I've been reading the stuff here for some time, and I joined mainly to reply, as I'm not much of an author. Anyhow, I'll see you guys around on here I s'pose...


Whee, these smilies are cool... :bigclap: :y-idea: :y-mm: :y-wink2: :y-crazy: :y-hello: :y-pet: :lol:

[BraveLiver]

Come on, people. Don't be hatin'

[Flak]

What's that supposed to mean, Brave?

Oh, and welcome to the FFF, Forged Essence. I'm gonna call you FE from now on. :y-thumbsu

[Shindog]

To quote those who have gone before, just select the test you want to quote, CTL-C, press the botton that looks like a cartoon guys is speaking, hit CTL-V and then enter. You have to add the posted by yourself. Like so:

posted by Forged Essense
I joined mainly to reply, as I'm not much of an author

Yet, you may not be much of an author but if you want that only has to be a temporary state of being. Any one can learn to write. This is a good place to learn. If you are willing to take some constructice advice from some of the more experienced writers here, you'll improve quickly. Any questions just ask. Most people here are really friendly and helpful. When in doubt turn to Flak, our mod, or good ole' reliable Uncle Shindog.

[BraveLiver]

What's that supposed to mean, Brave?

It means that people should stop arguing over a mods decision, because they waste bandwidth space over something they cannot change.

Plus, I hate it when people are upset with eachother.

[Flak]

When in doubt turn to Flak, our mod, or good ole' reliable Uncle Shindog.

Oh please, I have my hands full of NewHorde :lol:

Anyhow, yes, we're here for ya FE. (That's his name now...got it? Too long for me to type when I'm in a lazy mood. :y-annoyed )

[Shindog]

The following is advice from the Book of Shinney. It's by no means suggested to be the law of writing. It's just something that's helped me out and I wanted you guys to consider it and let me know what you think. Do I have a point, or am I just being picky and pretentious?

This whole bit is about naming. I know you're thinking "What's in a name?" Well Shakespear himself understood that there is actaully quite a bit involved in names. Some of his naming choices were down right brilliant but that's not my point.

I know it's hard to come up with original names but it gives you a level of control that if you use wisely can really help your story. By creating a name you can control the reader's first impression of the character.

I'll give you a couple of examples. These are some characters from a story I'm slowly plugging away at. Read the name and think about what kind of character they should be.

WolfClaw.

Groll.

Borden Cale.

Got any first impressions yet?

WolfClaw is a naturalist ranger, Groll is a huge and intimidating brute from the most wild races of humanity, meanwhile Mr. Cale is a pround and noble palidin-type knight. Hopefully you should have kinda gottent those impressions from the names without any further discription. This is especially helpful in short stories where space isn't unlimited. If the reader can picture you're character based off the name alone than you can move on.

Even when they reader can't assume anything based on the name it should atleast fit in their mind. I've had a lot of people tell me that my real name doesn't fit me. I'm sure you've met people who just didn't seem like a Micheal or a Gabe or what ever. In real life we can't always control if our kids grown into their name. In fiction we can. Why not take advantage of that?

Well I'm done. That was random I know but I just wanted to get it out there and spur up a little disscussion on how to help each other. Any questions, comments, disagreements or jokes about my grammar and/or body oder?

[Flak]

Hey, I was thinking about making another FFF contest, you know, where people submit short stories and then we vote for the winner.

Magical Cow used to make them (I think he made two and Sumi won the last one with his DotA story) and they were quite a lot of fun. So, should any of you agree with the idea of me starting FFC 3, I'll go ahead, and if you don't, I might start it anyway or not.

[Kilrogg_Deadeye]

Thanks Shin, that was useful. I always have problem with names. I end up just typing random stuff...like Rothlorag the Mighty etc., not really thinking about it much.

[Nio the Namless]

Hey Shindog, I have been working on my story for some time (basic plot mostly) and have been wondering if you would like to tell me more about your characature. I probally won't use him for some time but if you wish I could probally use him.

Hopefully I will have something in a month.. or two

[Shindog]

Flak: I don't think I'd compete but I think it would be fun to watch and maybe help judge if you like. I say bring it on!

Killrogg: No worries mate.

Nio: Sure thing, I'll try to write up a real indepth history for you on Dukalei. In other news I should be able to post in the Waking Dream here shortly.

[Kage no Musuko]

Hey, as I am coming to realize that, well, writing can be fun under certain circumstances, and since what i'm trying to do right now is turn my RPG into a story with many authors, I was thinking that maybe I could actually try to convert my RPG into a well written fiction from many perspectives a la Martian Chronicles. Granted, it will take a while for each installment, as we need to see where the story will go long before I write it, but I promise it'll be good! Maybe... sorta... whatever. So, how does that idea sound? Just checking before I jump headfirst into fiction writing.

[Saurus]

So, how does that idea sound?

I know another specific RPG that's being converted into a story and I think it's a great idea. You should go for it.

Also, I might decide to take a third attempt at moving in the FFF again, so hi once more everyone.

[Flak]

Hey, as I am coming to realize that, well, writing can be fun under certain circumstances, and since what i'm trying to do right now is turn my RPG into a story with many authors, I was thinking that maybe I could actually try to convert my RPG into a well written fiction from many perspectives a la Martian Chronicles. Granted, it will take a while for each installment, as we need to see where the story will go long before I write it, but I promise it'll be good! Maybe... sorta... whatever. So, how does that idea sound? Just checking before I jump headfirst into fiction writing.

One problem would be using the charactes well...but if you feel you can do it, you might as well try.

Oh, and what happened to that really cool short story you'd started last year? :y-sealed:

@Saurus: Welcome back.

[Nio the Namless]

One problem would be using the charactes well...but if you feel you can do it, you might as well try.

On that note don't be afraid to delete/change a characature to make the story more interesting. I think that rpgs can provide alot of inspiration but they tend to have rather choatic plots that don't always flow as you were hoping they would. I have learned this

[Kage no Musuko]

Nio, that's why I'd be telling it from many perspectives. As the members of the RPG are just members of a tremendous army, they have little control over the outcome of events. Therefore, the general plot is planned and organized. The same thing follows with the story. If I find something a player does to be either distasteful or uninteresting, I'll move to a different player, or make up a minor character out of scratch.

@Flak I got bored with it. Besides, I like this idea a lot better.

[Flak]

Get ready for a new member in this forum.
There will soon be a new member to this forum. His name is TOONCRAFTER, he will be writing stories and so on. He is a very nice guy, and I met him in warcraft ages ago. One day I stopped warcraft, and now after all this time, he e-mailed me. I told him that I would want to have people getting ready for him before he really comes. So guys, please, treat Tooncrafter nicely, he is nice to me, and I hope that you can be nice to him also. So get ready for your warmest welcome to our new friend ToonCrafter.

Stuff like that belongs here, not in seperate threads. hence the move.

@James- just make Ame cool, and I'll be happy.

[Kage no Musuko]

I actually haven't decided where to fit him in yet.

So far it's looking like Cas->Random gunslinger->Ame(maybe)->Draco->Pure soldier...

But keep in mind I won't be quoting, and I might add or take away small details. Artistic license, biatch!

And I finished part one of the prologue after the first final, I'll do the rest tonight. It's just that my stomach is shouting curses at me for not eating, so it's getting hard to think straight.

3...

2...

1...

*Boom*

[Flak]

I closed the 'What you like about the stories here' thread, 'cuz it was gettin' kinda O.T... ^^;

[Inquisistor7]

Well, it seems that we might as well reveal some more then. It is funny that, here on this forum where fiction dwells, that one fiction could be perceived as truth. For you see, that thread recently locked contained a falsehood. Heh, and it was fun to see the trap go off without a hitch. I hate to say it, but I have played a joke on you guys. For, in fact, I am far from female, much less Flak's girlfriend. I feel bad for this. It was my idea, and so I apologize. Falk is undeserving of great blame, and I hope that we can all look at this, laugh, and move on.

I am so evil.

[Flak]

Well, it seems that we might as well reveal some more then. It is funny that, here on this forum where fiction dwells, that one fiction could be perceived as truth. For you see, that thread recently locked contained a falsehood. Heh, and it was fun to see the trap go off without a hitch. I hate to say it, but I have played a joke on you guys. For, in fact, I am far from female, much less Flak's girlfriend. I feel bad for this. It was my idea, and so I apologize. Falk is undeserving of great blame, and I hope that we can all look at this, laugh, and move on.

I am so evil.

I have no idea what you're talking about Jo-chan...
[joke]

Anyhow, sorry guys. We were just pulling a wee prank :-) Fun while it lasted, I hope for everyone involved...if not sorry.

[Dragolas77]

You f*cking asshole Flak! You guilted me so much, and tried so hard to convince me and... God dammit. I hate you. :/

[Inquisistor7]

I remember whe Flak was telling me about tricking you, dragolas. You were right in your suspicions. The biggest tell should've been the very premise. Flak having a girlfriend? Impossible. ;)

[TheNewHorde]

Ok inquiz, I received your PM. Is this what you wanted me to see? Because if it is, i'll tell you now. No, I don't believe this is a giant joke, it's probably just things getting out of hand around here and you wish to pull everything back to where it all started. Which is why you came up with telling people it was a joke. And yes, if this is your choice, then I respect it. Because Flak already told me, brotherly love is different from what he have for you. I believe my Shan'do would not lie to me, for I trust him with all my heart and my soul. I will question you no more if this is where you wish it to end.


P.S. You will always be my Shan'do. Though maybe one day I am no longer your Thero'shan, I will always remember how much you have helped me. Not just language arts, but you shows me what a true friend really is. Thank you for your friendship. That is all I have to say.

Love Always, your beloved Thero'shan, The-New-Horde

[Dragolas77]

Okay, fine, he was joking about Inquisitor being a girl.

He wasn't joking about losing his virginity to inquisitor.

[Inquisistor7]

Ok inquiz, I received your PM. Is this what you wanted me to see? Because if it is, i'll tell you now. No, I don't believe this is a giant joke, it's probably just things getting out of hand around here and you wish to pull everything back to where it all started. Which is why you came up with telling people it was a joke. And yes, if this is your choice, then I respect it. Because Flak already told me, brotherly love is different from what he have for you. I believe my Shan'do would not lie to me, for I trust him with all my heart and my soul. I will question you no more if this is where you wish it to end.


You are indeed a desperate soul. Perhaps you did not notice how things happened in that thread. I referred to myself as a guy and then Flak said I became girl when he got to know me. It was all an elaborate ruse. NewHorde, you adore flak too much. My good fellow, this is the internet. You can make friends on it, but they are just internet friends. Do not take it so seriously. If you wish to ignore the truth out of some sort of strange adoration of Flak, then you are perhaps beyond my ability to reason with you.

[TheNewHorde]

This is not some weird adoration for Flak. It is because he made me felt as if I have a family again. I like the feeling when I am with Flak. I do not believe Flak is lying to me, even though the truth is in front of my eyes. I refuse to believe it until I hear Flak tells me that it was a lie directly. And I do not have high hopes on him telling me, because I know sooner or later he will, and I shall have a heartbreak. So please, just keep things the way it is, do not let me know the truth, for I would not be able to take it.

[Inquisistor7]

The truth will set you free.

[TheNewHorde]

No really... Please just let it go, don't mention the joke you guys said anymore... I don't want the truth. Please just stop.

[KillAllZerg]

No really... Please just let it go, don't mention the joke you guys said anymore... I don't want the truth. Please just stop.


Huge mental problems.... :y-mm: :y-crazy:

Anyways, I was wondering if Flak would be as so nice as to repost "The Vengence Of The Night Elves", which I believe was purged since the last time I was here. :y-candle:

[Flak]

Because Flak already told me, brotherly love is different from what he have for you.

Truth be told, it IS different.


At least, not originally, because due to my nature (treating those I hang with as brothers) you were both brothers to me (as a good deal of the people here are). However, it did change. At the time I said what I felt for you two was different, it was true. Sorry NH, you're a good guy, but there's seriously something wrong here.

I feel...in danger sometimes. As if someone were stalking me. Everytime I go on AIM, it's BAM!!! message from NH. I don't mind that, I mean, everytime Inq goes online, it's BAM!!! message from Flak (I'm fast on the IMs), but your treatment is weird. Off. Calling me Shan'do, saying you were jealous of Inq. I'm honestly scared of you, NH. I'm sorry if this hurts your feelings, but I feel I have to tell you the whole picture, so you can act more realistically in the future. You don't go around worshipping people. When I came here, I worshipped KCG, sucked up to him. It made me the 'bad n00b' in the eyes of the more respected forummers (Kajenx, for one) and that image stuck. No one likes worshippers.

I'm telling you, because your actions, your coveting of my posts (your obsession with posting after me, for example) are off. They're weird, and believe me, several forummers will always remember it and think you're weird for it. So, knock it off. If you want to make a respected name for yourself here, or even preserve the name you have as the new author, stop worshipping me.

When I came here, Ghoul King was the one who ended my idiocy and foolishness, made me act normal. I hope that, while this hurts you, you realize your own shortcomings and get over your troubles. I know your life hasn't been a jaunt in the park, but neither have many of ours. We all have problems, and we all depend on eachother in ways, but ultimately, we are just internet friends. Just internet friends. I'm not the kind of guy you worship, even if you didn't know me in real life. My internet life's record is no t flawless. I've done so many things wrong, it's a wonder I am a moderator. In real life, there are even more flaws.

I'm saying this for your sake. Stay here, NH, and be one of our number, stay in these forums, increase your ability in the writing sphere and partake of our community. But hero worship is disgusting.

-this has been an official message from Flak, and I believe that while it may seem cold it comes from the depths of his heart.

@KillAllZerg- It was deleted in a forum semi wipe. I'd repost it, but I personally don't have it. The admin keeps what he sees fit (which isn't a whole deal) but I'm a recent mod who isn't a record keeper of any sort. If BullRoarer has his Vengeance, he can repost it, but I can't do anything to help you. Sorry.

[Kilrogg_Deadeye]

That, and you oppose virginity loss before 25.

[KillAllZerg]

That, and you oppose virginity loss before 25.

Some people keep their virginity for life. :y-dunce:
While I am not one of those who preach about waiting for sex until after marriage, I do believe in waiting for the right person and not having casual realtionships. :y-wink3:

Does anyone know who purges the system every now and then? :y-huh:

[Flak]

Some people keep their virginity for life. :y-dunce:
While I am not one of those who preach about waiting for sex until after marriage, I do believe in waiting for the right person and not having casual realtionships. :y-wink3:

Does anyone know who purges the system every now and then? :y-huh:

The database errors the forums undergo during vBulletin updates.

[HiPPiE]

With all due respect, you guys are a little too serious.

Flak, since you support truth shocks, I should tell you you're being pretty weird here and thar, unless it's another joke.

Anyway I'm Hippie, 16 yrs old, stopped coming after Vagrant left but I think I'll start posting again.

[Inquisistor7]

Don't let my harsh manners dissuade you from posting, which they seem not to have. Anyway, I am glad to see you want to post more, and I apologize again for my poor form when you posted about vagrant. I was out of line in many of my comments. Finally, welcome.

[HiPPiE]

Nah, I understand. It's a pain to get dirty out-of-place-threads in something like a fiction forum. You want a neat collection of stories and such. I really do wonder where Vagrant is though... since I haven't gotten a concrete answer. Can he be reached anywhere?

I have an idea for a story. Will it be well-recieved if it is not Warcraft-related? I used to write fanfics and such but since I quit computer games I realized they seem somewhat shallow from the outside. At the same time they have a sort of charm, because there's already an entire established world and a wealth of history and knowledge to build upon. I don't think I'll write fan-fiction though.

[Inquisistor7]

Feel free to post your story.

[Flak]

Nah, I understand. It's a pain to get dirty out-of-place-threads in something like a fiction forum. You want a neat collection of stories and such. I really do wonder where Vagrant is though... since I haven't gotten a concrete answer. Can he be reached anywhere?

I have an idea for a story. Will it be well-recieved if it is not Warcraft-related? I used to write fanfics and such but since I quit computer games I realized they seem somewhat shallow from the outside. At the same time they have a sort of charm, because there's already an entire established world and a wealth of history and knowledge to build upon. I don't think I'll write fan-fiction though.

First paragraph- None here know.

Second- view the rules thread for all info on postable threads and fiction. Non-war3 stuff is fine.


As for me being weird, well, yeah, comes with the job :-P

[Pretzel]

Methinks that Tooncrafter might be NewHorde *ponders* Oh well, prolly not, I just like arousin' suspision and creating chaos.

Anyway, /me shouts "Hey FE, check out community forum, deys givin' away cookies 'n' bear :y-thumbsu

[TheNewHorde]

Ok... About a week or two havn't been on this forum... I thought this site either broke down or it closed... I guess it's just me... with the window 95 old computer and 28k internet speed these people I live with have.

BTW, thank you for being truthful Flak. Though very heartbreaking, I can see the sense in that. Hope I can still be friends with you. I am really weird though, I think I can tell, but I found internet more real than real life. I have no one, there is no one in my life that can give the warmth you guys have given me. I hereby thank everyone in this forum for their warmth for me, my gratitude can not be told by words. I love you guys.

One last thing, Flak, (or any others, if they bother to read this,) do you have any romance advise? I am going mad for this girl, I can't stop thinking of her. But the things that sucks are: A. I don't have classes with her anymore. B. She got a bf, and even if she broke up with her bf, I still don't have the guts and nerve to tell her how I feel. And now she got another new bf. Is there any possible way to attract a female's positive attention without using the sensitive words like "love" or "like" or "crush" and any other words?

[Pureauthor]

... Take it from me, NH.

You. Need. Help.

What on earth makes you think you can get a girl to like/love you without showing her that you like/love/whatever her?

What makes you think that 'love', 'crushes', 'like', etc, are girly?!

What in God's name is with your puppy-dog obssession with Flak?! Come to think of it, what was with Flak's puppy-dog obssession with KCG? Uh, but maybe we shouldn't go there...

Anyway, if you really want to get to know this girl: (And I advise laying it off until she and her BF are no longer an item. And even then, wait. You don't want to be the guy on the rebound.)

Step One: Check to see if she doesn't run screaming every time you talk to her. Okay, maybe not that extreme, but if everytime you pop up, she makes a polite excuse or something and leaves, forget it. (And if you haven't even talked to her yet, start.)

Step Two: I she seems friendly to you, or is okay being seen with you, steel yourself.

Step Three: Find a good time to talk to her. Good times include: (When she is alone. When she is not busy. Maybe over the phone, but make sure she knows who she's talking to.)

Bad times are: When it's twenty seconds before class and she's frantically searching for a book. When she's hanging out with her friends. When she's acting really chummy with another guy.)

Step Four: Walk up to her and ask her out. (Would you like to go out with me on Saturday?)

Note: On the whole, I think this thing is a bad idea, not to mention it's probably a crush. But only you are in a position to know that. BTW, how old are you?

[Kilrogg_Deadeye]

I think I'll be honest as well NewHorde. I'm not joking or anything.

The only healthy relationship with the net is to accept than no one gives a damn about you. I don't give a damn about Flak, Flak doesn't give a damn about me, we don't give a damn about you etc. because of the simple fact that we don't know each other. Developing an imaginary intimate friendship on the net will just bring you a lot of hurt mate. Because if you become so involved, one day you'll realise that no one cares, and it'll all be for the worst.

Get real friend, really. Finding warmth and such on the net is just no a way to lead a life. In fact it can be really dangerous, emotionally. So, you know, turn towards the real life, because the screen in front of you is just a cold machine, and the things you read are just pixles, only impressions of those you count as intimate friends. For your sake I hope you learn to cope with that.

[AlarStormBringer]

I agree with Kilrogg. I don't care about any of you. Your all just minions for me to play with for my pleasure. You are nothing but specks of dust in my universe! I am your ruler!! I AM YOUR LORD!

Now go fetch me a soda. I thirst.

NH- I have no clue on women. I don't get that kind of attention. I'm far too charming for them to approach me, and I approach them, they run away with giddy fear.

-Sarcasm-

[TheNewHorde]

Dunno what to say. I guess cause I don't have a great real life. By the way, Pureauthor, if you have time to reply to our messages, then why don't you start working on your crystal stars?

[Flak]

I guess cause I don't have a great real life.

Even if I were capable of pity, I wouldn't pity you. Your life isn't the best, granted, but no one truly has a perfect life (and if they do, may they be warned that the perfection will end soon).

Let's all just be a happy online community. No more of this. Oh and NH, if you don't have the balls to say the word boyfriend, you don't deserve to be one :-P

[Renetet]

I guess cause I don't have a great real life.

Noone does, real life is just full of disappointment. Like when in DotA, the enemy hero walks over a hill and u lose line of sight. Like when your about to get that Skeleton King and he just just JUST gets his reincarnation. Like...o wait, real life...

Real life sucks, plain and simple. If you think ur life sucks, theres probably someone getting bhuttsecksed in prison somewhere, so be glad your not him. Be thankful for what you got.

Now if u live in an upturned recycle bin and eat the neighbour's cat's food, i think you have a right to complain.

[Flak]

Something I made... (http://img233.exs.cx/img233/2138/ghostlyhc9et.gif)

[Pureauthor]

And that is supposed to be... what?

[Flak]

....

Art?

[Kingcrazygenius]

Reality is what you make of it. Destroy them all NewHorde. Destroy them in the name of the true master.

ZIGGO'S GIANT SHREDDER DEMANDS OBEDIANCE!

[Pureauthor]

*stuffs a banana up the exhaust pipe*

Ah... brings back memories.

[Kingcrazygenius]

Even if his shredders still had exhaust pipes the pipes would be too large for even a watermelon or pumpkin to block. Now he uses a direct portal to the twisting nether as a fuel source. As well as draining the magical essences directly it also shreds up any demon who walks through.

[AlarStormBringer]

Pfft. Those demons can't compared to my status as newly reinfested Demi-god. And this time with twice the onion chopping power! -Fancy anime pose.-

[Kingcrazygenius]

Too bad that an infested demi-god is an impossibility, meaning he's just an ordinary infested orc now. Which makes forcing him to slice my onions alot easier.

[AlarStormBringer]

You think I'm talking about me? No no no, I'm talking about the newly re-animated Cenarius.

[KillAllZerg]

I wonder how it feels to **** a demi-god?

[TheNewHorde]

You are just a bunch of sex hungry sickos...

[TheNewHorde]

You are just a bunch of sex hungry sickos...

[Kilrogg_Deadeye]

'Human' would be a more polite term.

[Flak]

NH- I'll dismiss that as a joke unless someone objects. But statements like that are controversial and may displease some, so I guess you should refrain from such comments in the future. They're certainly not true; generalizations are never totally true.

[TheNewHorde]

Hey!! That's not fair! Flak!!! You're picking on me now, just because now everyone hates me and dislike me just as you do. Doesn't mean you can all gang up against me! (Like if you care, if I get a car crash and die tomorrow, you probably won't drop a single drop of tear.) I really hate you all... That statement was so true, KillallZerg said that he wonders how it feel to BLANK a demi-god. If he is not a sex hungry sicko, then why would he say that?

[Flak]

Hey!! That's not fair! Flak!!! You're picking on me now, just because now everyone hates me and dislike me just as you do. Doesn't mean you can all gang up against me!

I neither hate you nor dislike you.

(Like if you care, if I get a car crash and die tomorrow, you probably won't drop a single drop of tear.)

Of course I wouldn't. I wouldn't know if you died.

I really hate you all...

What a shame...

That statement was so true, KillallZerg said that he wonders how it feel to BLANK a demi-god. If he is not a sex hungry sicko, then why would he say that?

He was joking most likely. Oh and just because he is (suppose he is, I am not saying he is) doesn't make us all. So the statement 'you all' was false.

[Inquisistor7]

For whatever reason I feel compelled to share a piece of advice given to me months ago by my brother when I just started writing [fan] fiction. I am not offering this out of a sense of superiority but because what he said to me, while pretty simple, always comes back to me. He said: “Remember, writing is an art.” Now, I am not going to lecture on literery devices or on what art is, but I can say how I have born it in mind and considered it.

Writing, as we all know, is its own form of expression and communication, and in a traditional sense, there are certain qualities in writing that are considered artful. I do not know them all, nor do I pretend to. In the brief time I have been alive, I suppose I have read quite a bit (in a strictly relative sense), but I do not know everything writers do to express the meaning and relate the experiences of their senses and imagination. So, in my own way, I try to not just relate what is going on, but to do so in a way that flows well and interconnects.

So, what in the hell am I blathering about? Simply put, I am saying that writing is not just about style, and not just about content. It is about combining the two and presenting them in a well thought out and meaningful way. Search for new ways, words, and expressions to present elements in your stories, and take your time. If one rushes then a passage will not turn out as well as it might. Hold up your works not to a lofty standard, but take pride in what you are doing and try to make them as good as they can be. Mistakes will happen, but the skill of writing can be improved. Deeper meanings are usually a good thing, but the literal should be enjoyable (that is, balance is necessary).

I apologize for this eerie rant of mine, but I thought and felt that I had to do it.

[Flak]

To mimic a scene in AIR,

'That merits applause. *starts clapping slowly* Clap. Clap. Clap.'

No seriously. :y-thumbsu

[Flak]

The third fan fiction contest hereby has ended.

Congrats to the winners. :bigclap:

[TheNewHorde]

I know I am usually in a bad mood and pisses everyone off... but right now, I am in a so very bad mood, and this time, it wasn't my fault! It was this forum's fault! So **** YOU ALL! (And I am 99.99% sure Flak won't ban me cause it's not my fault, it's something else's fault, if he does ban me, then he is one hell of an ass hole.)
I tried to log on to this forum for 2 and a half days and all it does is say, Thank you for logging on, thenewhorde. Click here is your browser does not reconnect you. And then it auto log me off! I am so pissed, I think I am gonna go cry...... not.

[TheNewHorde]

Well, just to make sure I don't get banned... I restate what I said. I change it from SO **** YOU ALL to SO **** THIS FORUM. AHA, so now you got no reason to ban me. ^_^

[Flak]

Baka x10.

That's your computer's fault. The forums are fine. It has to do with your cookie settings, I'm pretty sure.

And don't insult the forums. Rush is going out of his way and putting money out of his pocket to run this place for us. If you don't like it, you don't use it.

[TheNewHorde]

Oh say can you see? By the dawn's early light, was so ppppprrrroudly we held, at the twilight's last gleaming.... And I forgot the lyrics, but I love the song.

[TheNewHorde]

Curse Flak for not enjoying Arak'Nerub when he reads it, it's such a good story, how can you not like it?

[Flak]

Curse NH for whining about things he doesn't need to.

[TheNewHorde]

Curse F for cursing me. HAHAHA

[TheNewHorde]

I Beat Kingdom Hearts, Chain Of Memories!

[Flak]

You spammed!

[Kilrogg_Deadeye]

Tsssss....Dude, NH, just because you're not man enough to deal with your own personal problems doesn't mean you need to take it out on a god damn forum. Go down to your local pub if you need to take out aggressions.

[Flak]

He's my age, pubs are ineffective treatment. :y-annoyed

[TheNewHorde]

Pub! Root Beer! Have a nude party! ......well, just you guys, I'm still under age and don't want to get myself messy......

Hey, was the kingdom heart spam or was the fact that I was cursing you spam? Or is it something else.

By the way, I realize I didn't beat the game, you use Sora for the first time, and then you get to use Riku. Anyways, I beated the game for real now, it's cool. In Sora, Goofy and Donald is ur partner, and in Riku, his majesty, king Mickey Mouse is ur partner. P.S. Riku can't team with Jack, Aladdin, Arieo the little mermaid, the beast in beauty and the beast, and I can't think of the rest right now. What does P.S stands for? Plus Supermessage?

[TheNewHorde]

Hey, I wrote two new chapters for my story. But doesn't sound right at all when I proof read, I mean, yeh, I can feel the sense of weirdness, but I dunno what to do. Example: I try to make the old marine argue with the navy about the boy being a thief and if he should be taken to jail or not. But if you want to make it sounds tense and have the feeling of them shouting without really constantly writing the word shouting, what should you do?

[TheNewHorde]

LoL, back to Kingdom Hearts. :g laugh: :g laugh: :g laugh:

Ok, the song sounds so beautiful and got a good beat, but if you really listen to the lyrics, you'll probably throw up.

"Hold me
Whatever lies beyond this morning
Is a little later on
Regardless of warnings the future doesn't scare me at all
Nothing's like before"

&

"Don't get me wrong I love you
But does that mean I have to meet your father?
When we are older you'll understand
What I meant when I said "No,
I don't think life is quite that simple""

Also, there is one part I don't get, what does she mean like does that mean I have to meet your father? What's wrong with meeting her dad? What? Did the guy r*pe her and so she doesn't want her parents to know or what? I really don't get it, but it's disney music, it can't be something like that, right?

Sorry for spamming, (if you're talking about kingdom hearts at all, Flak, but I doupt this is spamming, is it?) but I just really wanna know this before I keep on writing my story, cause it does disturb me abit.

[Flak]

No, it was the fact that you posted three or four times in a row.


As far as I know, spoilers to video games and shows are highly frowned on, and posts about why you were banned for spamming are as well.

Just...quiet down, ande post everything you have to say at once.


...and why would those lyrics make me throw up?

[TheNewHorde]

Cause, the lyrics is weird. It's about love and all. And I really don't get the part about don't tell her dad. And this is suppose to be disney songs, there is love in it, are you sure the game is rated for everyone? I would've rerate that, it should be rated higher than warcraft. Ewww.... just think of it, love

[Flak]

Love is cool.

Pack
And get dressed
Before your father
Hears us
Before
All hell
Breaks loose...

[Shindog]

Love is cool. More than cool, it's a many splendid thing. Although far too many songs are written about it, once you find love my newhordeing friend, you won't mind those songs so much.

Happy Valentine's Day everybody.

[KillAllZerg]

Does anyone know where Flak lives? I have a special present for him. (hides atomic bomb in colorfully wrapped gift box)

[Flak]

KillAllZ- the White House. (Not really, I just want you to kill Bush.)

Shindog- Happy Day That St. Valentine Was Beheaded. Rather joyful, no?

[TheNewHorde]

I got a 99% feeling Flak is gonna edit it after I post this message, so people please read it fast!


"I WAS MERELY FOOLING AROUND WHEN I ASK IF HE WANTED TO BE MY VALENTINE OR NOT! AND HE TRIED TO R@PE ME!!! I GAVE HIM THIS BIG VALENTINE HUG WITH THIS KISS (NOT A FRENCH KISS, JUST A NORMAL ONE), AND HE TURNED ME OVER... I ASKED 'WHAT ARE YOU DOING, DO INQUISISTOR7 AND YOU DO THIS?' HE SAID 'LET'S JUST THINK OF US RIGHT NOW...' AND I SCREAMED AND TURNED BACK, HE TURNED ME OVER AGAIN, AND I TURNED AND TRY TO RUN, BUT HE GOT ME AND TURNED ME BACK... ALL WENT DARK, I WAS HELPLESS, MY ASS WAS ALMOST BEING INVILATED, AND THEN I ESCAPED... ESCAPED BUTT NAKED... RUNNING AWAY FROM HIM... I SAID 'I BETTER LEAVE BEFORE THINGS GET ROUGH' (WHICH ALREADY DID, BY THE WAY.) AND I SPEND THE WORST VALENTINE EVER BUTT NAKED RUNNING AWAY AND IT SCARED THE CRAP OUT OF ME, LITERALLY!"

[Flak]

That was fun...*sigh*

...seriously, WTF?!

[KillAllZerg]

I got a 99% feeling Flak is gonna edit it after I post this message, so people please read it fast!


"I WAS MERELY FOOLING AROUND WHEN I ASK IF HE WANTED TO BE MY VALENTINE OR NOT! AND HE TRIED TO R@PE ME!!! I GAVE HIM THIS BIG VALENTINE HUG WITH THIS KISS (NOT A FRENCH KISS, JUST A NORMAL ONE), AND HE TURNED ME OVER... I ASKED 'WHAT ARE YOU DOING, DO INQUISISTOR7 AND YOU DO THIS?' HE SAID 'LET'S JUST THINK OF US RIGHT NOW...' AND I SCREAMED AND TURNED BACK, HE TURNED ME OVER AGAIN, AND I TURNED AND TRY TO RUN, BUT HE GOT ME AND TURNED ME BACK... ALL WENT DARK, I WAS HELPLESS, MY ASS WAS ALMOST BEING INVILATED, AND THEN I ESCAPED... ESCAPED BUTT NAKED... RUNNING AWAY FROM HIM... I SAID 'I BETTER LEAVE BEFORE THINGS GET ROUGH' (WHICH ALREADY DID, BY THE WAY.) AND I SPEND THE WORST VALENTINE EVER BUTT NAKED RUNNING AWAY AND IT SCARED THE CRAP OUT OF ME, LITERALLY!"
Wow, Flak. I never knew you had it in you. It's always the quiet ones.... :lol:

[Shindog]

originally posted by Flak
Shindog- Happy Day That St. Valentine Was Beheaded. Rather joyful, no?

Any reason to party my friend, any reason to party.

[TheNewHorde]

Dude... I didn't know if it was a joke or not... but that was not fun... I thought you were the quiet type who is just too nice to be mean... but if that was to drive me away from this forum, then please say so. Nothing is worth getting my ass invilated, not even staying in this forum. So please e-mail me ur reply, at least apologize for what you did. NewHorde@aol.com

[Flak]

I was just giving you a taste of what it would be like if were actual valentines. You know, after dates, the tradition is to go home and **** your girlfriend/boyfriend.

So it was mainly a joke.

[TheNewHorde]

Is it too late to say I want to be "just friends" with you? I am not ready for relationships yet... I think there should be a distance... (maybe I'll date Inquisistor7 next... but gotta figure out where he lives first...) Jking, I am through with relationships... the last one really freaked me out...

*Surreal_Orc - Hey! I know why, cause Flak tried to abuse you!*
*TNH - Good job, how you figure that out?*

*sorry for picking on surreal, but I have to pick on someone to let me feel better, and since he left the forum permanently, I thought this would be a good idea.*

[Flak]

Or you could stop taking the internet so seriously.

And geez, what a way to pick on someone's memory. SO, while a ban-addict, and not the brightest, was a very cool member of these forums. Just cuz he left doesn't mean you can insult him in anyway (though I don't see how that's 'picking on him', you didn't do anything offensive.)

Anyhow, just forget about internet relationships, especially those that have to do with guys you don't know.

Or me.

[KillAllZerg]

TheNewHorde had a relationship? Was it with the girl that he wanted to go out with, so he started a thread and asked for advice?

[Flak]

TheNewHorde had a relationship? Was it with the girl that he wanted to go out with, so he started a thread and asked for advice?

I think he was talking about me, scarily enough.

[Sumiyoshi]

... man, I remember back in the day when the FFF was the coolest board in this forum.

:y-sad:

[Flak]

...man, I remember back when Sumi posted on these boards. Now he doesn't.

...I don't see you contributing, I don't want to see you complaining. Post a bit, you don't even have to write- reply, show you're doing something- then I'll listen.

You weren't here during the semi-wipe last year, you didn't help resurrect the forums. Maybe you should thank some of us. Thank Inquisistor, Bullroarer, Braveliver, and a few others who helped keep this place going.

[Pureauthor]

... Are you PMSing or something, Flak?

[Kingcrazygenius]

You have all brought down the FFF. Ziggo will have to kill you all.

[Flak]

... Are you PMSing or something, Flak?

No, just slightly irked by the fact that someone like Sumi who used to be so cool would say something like that.

@KCG- you don't contribute either. :y-curtain

[Kingcrazygenius]

All the contributions in the world don't help if the stories are no good.

[Sumiyoshi]

...man, I remember back when Sumi posted on these boards. Now he doesn't.

...I don't see you contributing, I don't want to see you complaining. Post a bit, you don't even have to write- reply, show you're doing something- then I'll listen.

You weren't here during the semi-wipe last year, you didn't help resurrect the forums. Maybe you should thank some of us. Thank Inquisistor, Bullroarer, Braveliver, and a few others who helped keep this place going.


I was referring more to the state of the last few pages of the Central Thread (that, and the passing of the majority of the old guard). But even so... yeah, that was uncalled for on my part.

My apologies, both for my comment and for the fact that my desire to write has fallen dormant.

... but more for the former, really.

[KillAllZerg]

I kill dead people.

Does anyone know where TheNewHorde lives? I have a special present for him as well. *Drags unwitting psychologist along*

[Kingcrazygenius]

He doesn't need a psychologist, just a few more years of aging and a reality check.

[Flak]

I was referring more to the state of the last few pages of the Central Thread (that, and the passing of the majority of the old guard). But even so... yeah, that was uncalled for on my part.

My apologies, both for my comment and for the fact that my desire to write has fallen dormant.

... but more for the former, really.

Eh, 's all good then I guess. :y-curtain

[TheNewHorde]

We don't need this kind of post here. I agree with Inq and with Alar, and in this case with Sumi. The forums could be so much cooler without these kinds of posts. So, edited out.

[Inquisistor7]

NewHorde, I am gonna have to ask you to stop. Just stop. Your posts have not been helping this forum.

This a fan fiction forum. This is not a place for whiny posts about how bad life is or how cruel other members are. Go to the off-topic forum for that.

I assume that you life Warcraft, like reading stories, and enjoy writing to some degree. Fine. Please read and contribute to stories and all that. Post about the works that are on this forum. Do not clutter and drag down this community with inane and annoying rants about your life. Stop.

And do not reply to this post. Just don't. Please just take a few minutes and think about how much your posts are causing problems. I agree with Sumi: this place used to be cooler. NH, the vast majority of you posts are huritng matters. This forum is meant to be about discussing fan fiction. It takes a lot of time and effort to write stories adn read them and contribute feedback to the writers here; it is not easy. So please do not hamper our efforts to build a good forum. Either help or leave. Place your personal problems at the door. This place is not meant to help you solve what is wrong with your life.

Again, do not reply to this. If you do not reply, then I'll know you read it
and understand it.

Now can we please move on?

[AlarStormBringer]

NH. Just a few quick words that I'd like to refer to the rules for..

'Please do not flame or abuse other members.'

Now comply or be destroyed. You WILL be assimilated into our order.

[Flak]

*And truthfully, it's not sarcasm... He is better than us, but that doesn't give him the right to talk about us like that... (or just mainly me...)*

Actually, he's just another gamer/loser like all of us.

Yourgiving in to his suposed superiority is one of the reasons we all say this- you take the internet way too seriously.

[TheNewHorde]

Overdramatic, ridiculously emotional, and worthless posts like these are not necessary. Just chill out.

[Flak]

We're not telling you to leave, we're just telling you not to make posts like the one you just did.

[Kingcrazygenius]

Actually, he's just another gamer/loser like all of us.

Yourgiving in to his suposed superiority is one of the reasons we all say this- you take the internet way too seriously.

If Flak is talking about me he is wrong, as I am superior to him and all of you.

*lets the people watch the superiority via dancing about*

[Flak]

Heh.

Ok, I updated the rules a bit. Just some stuff (most of it is already abided by by most, and close to none of it is banworthy). Some rules that I felt would make the forums cleaner and make them contain fewer arguments and useless posts.

Also, soon the editing announcement will have to go (the announcement space is valuable) but the service will not. Drop me a line via e-mail (gemff6@yahoo.com) or PM (Flak) if you need any editing. :bigclap:

[KillAllZerg]

What were TNH's posts?

[PissingPanther]

Yeah I want to read the posts

[Flak]

If you wanna discuss NH's troubles you can do so in the OTF. This is not the place, and I will not put his worthless posts on display.

You can always talk to him via PM, e-mail, or IM if you wanna hear everything he has to say. This is not the place for such talks.

[AlarStormBringer]

We will fight! Down with the totalitarian government! The vicious oppressors will fall to the usurping might of the people! Viva la revolution! VIVA LA REVOLUTION!!!

On a sidenote, my posts are getting seriously jacked up somehow. Each word was capitalized, and I swear I saw some words that weren't there before.

[Terran Marine]

I served totalitarian governments for so long. First the Terran Confederate, then the Terran Dominion, then the United Earth Directorate. They're not so bad, once you've been through their re-education programs.

[AlarStormBringer]

It's amazing your still alive comrade. Perhaps we could speak on the highly influential levels of StarCraft on our modern society sometime.

[Flak]

On a sidenote, my posts are getting seriously jacked up somehow. Each word was capitalized, and I swear I saw some words that weren't there before.

Explain your issue and I'll look into it.

[rålfwårg]

Heh.

Ok, I updated the rules a bit. Just some stuff (most of it is already abided by by most, and close to none of it is banworthy). Some rules that I felt would make the forums cleaner and make them contain fewer arguments and useless posts.

Also, soon the editing announcement will have to go (the announcement space is valuable) but the service will not. Drop me a line via e-mail (gemff6@yahoo.com) or PM (Flak) if you need any editing. :bigclap:
Is this post considered useless?

Because it might have sentimental value for me.

[Flak]

Is this post considered useless?

Because it might have sentimental value for me.

Hate to break it to ya but your sentimental value in things pertains little to the use of a post to a forum. I'll leave it there because it was a question and I answered it but posting for the sake of having a post is a no-no.

[rålfwårg]

I understand.

[PissingPanther]

what did he say?

[Flak]

what did he say?

Never you mind that. This forum is not about Ralfwarg's spam. It is about stoies. I want everyone to understand that.

[rålfwårg]

Need I remind you, Ralfwarg, of a certain rule? Either stop posting crap or don't post at all- if you can't refrain from either I encourage you to leave these forums of your own free will before your exit is forced.

[Kingcrazygenius]

Still...I cannot help but wonder what he said.

[Fire.Archimonde]

Hats off to Bullroarer I love reading your stuff dude :y-thumbsu I'm thinking of writing up some fiction for these forums as well.

[Inquisistor7]

Bullroarer hasn't posted much as of late. He must be busy with real life *gasp*

[Terran Marine]

He's most likely hiding in a hole. Being the head of the tauren mafia makes him a big target for other crime families.

[AlarStormBringer]

It's time to ban fleagan.

Again.

[Terran Marine]

You shouldn't have posted in those threads. Your messages will only get erased when they delete them.

[AlarStormBringer]

I know that my good light infantry unit. I had to say it. It just felt so good...

[Flak]

Fleagin's posts/threads in this forum have been deleted. I apololgize for any inconvenience he caused, but apart from bumping down threads the only damages seem to have been irritation.

I'll get to reading fics i'm behind in tomorrow. Sorry for the delay, I was sick yesterday.

Bye!

[Bullroarer]

I have been thinking of writing my own fiction story based in my world and I have posted it on Dragon's Rule, Shark's Defiance. It took me a while trying to think of adversary worthy of a dragon and then it hit me.

[NeckHanger]

Though I was surprised, you're publishing a book? That's a lengthy process, not to talk about the cost. If it make you feel better, NewHorde and I will both buy a book from you once you publish it. (Plus, has anyone seen NH lately? He hasn't talk to me for a while now, I thought I might see him here, which is why I made an account for this other than just simply read the stories like I use to.)

[Inquisistor7]

I'll get to reading fics i'm behind in tomorrow. Sorry for the delay, I was sick yesterday.


It's okay. All is forgiven (that is, as long as you read more Forge of the Winds and give me feedback). Seriously, though, glad you are well.

And Bull, I am glad to see you here posting more.

[Flak]

It's okay. All is forgiven (that is, as long as you read more Forge of the Winds and give me feedback).

Will do.

Ah, it seems the spam threads bumped some threads down. Time to update FtP!