View Full Version : who will play world of warcraft?
majestik
05-11-04, 01:42 PM
ı think it is same frozen throne but ı see its pictures its very good ı wait the game ı live in euro. so ı dont know when am ı buy the game ?who play its demo
:bigclap:
EvilRyu
05-11-04, 02:06 PM
There IS no demo. Its the BETA test. By the way, sh..sh..anyone know where I can get an illegal beta authentication key....sh hshs.....If I say louder I might get myself banned. :y-wink3:
Divine_Pie.exe
05-11-04, 03:13 PM
Anyone with a brain knows you can easily get free beta keys/wow through limewire/kazaa...
EvilRyu
05-11-04, 04:06 PM
Anyone with a brain knows you can easily get free beta keys/wow through limewire/kazaa...
:g-sick: :g sad: :y-evil: . But thanks
Reign of Kalos
06-11-04, 12:08 AM
ı think it is same frozen throne but ı see its pictures its very good ı wait the game ı live in euro. so ı dont know when am ı buy the game ?who play its demo
:bigclap:
It's nothing like the Frozen Throne. It's a completely different gameplay perspective. A totally different genre. Nothing alike at all apart from a basis in the same universe.
Aj Windshadow
06-11-04, 06:06 AM
It's nothing like the Frozen Throne. It's a completely different gameplay perspective. A totally different genre. Nothing alike at all apart from a basis in the same universe.
Except the universe,alot seems to be weird though like garonas return and weird technologies and stuff.... :y-candle: :y-huh:
something like what it must've been when warcaft 3 was coming out....
happy with orcs defeated here comes hordes of deamons and hidden races from islands not heard of before and stuff that mustve been weirder than whats happening now though.
Bartuc the 1st
06-11-04, 07:03 AM
I am getting wow and probably will make a clan with my wc3 clan mates or friends
Dragolas77
06-11-04, 08:45 AM
I'm a hypocrite, i know.
I'm getting it. Atleast, the open beta. Then, i will get it unless i REALLY hate the open beta...
majestik
07-11-04, 10:12 AM
I'm a hypocrite, i know.
I'm getting it. Atleast, the open beta. Then, i will get it unless i REALLY hate the open beta...
is it good? ı wait it.....ıts not good :y-thumbsd
Divine_Pie.exe
07-11-04, 10:40 AM
is it good? ? wait it.....?ts not good :y-thumbsd
Yeah.... if anything, atleast I'll get to play my drawf rifleman in open beta for a week or so...
majestik
07-11-04, 11:06 AM
Yeah.... if anything, atleast I'll get to play my drawf rifleman in open beta for a week or so...
ı will play it and ı say my advbice for game thank u :y-idea:
Dragolas77
07-11-04, 11:35 AM
By the things in your post, english isn't your first language, so i can't harp on you for that...
Now, i'mah gonnah be a tauren/human player...
Paladin and shaman maybe?
EvilRyu
07-11-04, 12:32 PM
I wouldnt mind paying $30 Australian dollars a month. After all, you can stop playing when u cant afford it. I only hope that it wont cost too much buying the game in the first place.
jonirenicus666
08-11-04, 02:22 AM
I can't wait for it man, gunna be ace, shame us EUs get it later than every1 else.
Reign of Kalos
08-11-04, 07:15 AM
Except the universe
How was this not what I said?
Dragolas77
08-11-04, 02:08 PM
Good and bad news
Good: OPEN BETA IS HERE!
Bad: Site crashed. No idea when it's back, likely while i'm at school, just so i won't get it... :/
majestik
14-11-04, 06:37 AM
Good and bad news
Good: OPEN BETA IS HERE!
Bad: Site crashed. No idea when it's back, likely while i'm at school, just so i won't get it... :/
:y-drink: ı tried it ı had same problem ı try a lot of t.me same same same ı was tried after ı didnt try again :y-thumbsd :y-thumbsd :y-thumbsd :g-sick: :g tired: :y-candle: :y-huh:
Blackfan
21-11-04, 12:34 PM
i have already reserved it. it looks really good.
Pitboss_2000
21-11-04, 09:53 PM
No way I'm paying that kind of money per month to play a computer game. Besides that, my comp won't be bale to run the bastard in a decent way and I'm not going to upgrade it just for WoW. I say: screw 'em.
EvilRyu
22-11-04, 10:59 PM
To play Wow you have to
spend $50US to buy da game
pay a monthly fee say $15US
buy/upgrade computer which cost $$$
use more electricity which cost $$$
Waste large amount of your time which can be used to make $$$
Lose some of your life
Wow is attractive, but hell where can i get da $$$?
I will just stick to WC3 for now thanks.
lose some of your life? rofl.
instead of sitting here, typing in a forum and playing w3, you could also not 'lose some of your life', by doing something useful like studying and/or working.
i think pretty much everyone knows gaming ain't the most useful thing to do in your life, but it's fun and we (at least, i) love it.
Romanov77
23-11-04, 03:23 AM
FFXI > WoW
This is pure blasphemy...
jonirenicus666
23-11-04, 08:48 AM
heheheheh, so much life wasted on CPU. WOW not v demanding on system, not compared to the other big games this year, Rome, HL2, Doom3 etc
EDIT: hehe my CPU et 1MBPS pwn all u. lol :y-candle:
Reign of Kalos
23-11-04, 09:35 AM
heheheheh, so much life wasted on CPU. WOW not v demanding on system, not compared to the other big games this year, Rome, HL2, Doom3 etc
EDIT: hehe my CPU et 1MBPS pwn all u. lol :y-candle:
They don't measure CPU speed in 'MBPS' fool. That's your internet connection speed, which frankly isn't that impressive anyway. My current package offers three, with the option to go up to six. So not only are you mistaken, but you aren't that impressive anyway. For the record, CPU speed is measure roughly in GHZ, I saw roughtly because even those AMD chips are slower on this scale, they often outrun those that are fast on the scale, but are made by Intel. Clearly the one number is not an accurate depiction of of true performance and it's speed.
I do agree with you on one thing though, it's requirements are very low. Probably because it's graphics are nowhere near as realistic or as detailed as those in doom 3 and the like, and Blizzard has a history of tailoring to the lower end of the market so that all can play. That and MMORPG's don't typically demand all that much anyway due to the gameplay being the driving force, nothing else.
Reign of Kalos
23-11-04, 11:00 AM
I dislike WoW mainly because its engine, but also because of it's extreme low poly structure. Look at other MMORPGs -- they use 5-10k poly models. WoW's models are like, 1000-3000 max. Though I do admit the terrain is much more detailed than some other games:
@jonirenicus: do you know how to run a computer?
CPU speed is 'directly' measured in GHz, but it's true speed is a combination rating of it's clock speed (in GHz), it's Front side bus speed (in MHz, approaching GHz (new FX-55!)), and it's IPCs - Information per Clock Cycle. Clock cycles are determined by the clock speed, IE, more Hz, more cycles per second. a 3GHz CPU has 3,000,000,000 cycles every second, so it drops 3,000,000,000 pieces of information. however AMD processors have signifigantly better IPCs, with less attention to clock speed.
Now I'm just rambling. If you really want to know any of this you can look it up.Good explaination. Excellent detail, and to the best of my knowledge all correct. I hope that at least one person learns something here, if nothing else then please don't get your speeds mixed up again. If it wasn't enought the first time then I'll say it again to be sure: We measure CPU speed in GHz, not KBPS/MBPS/GBPS, you're speaking a load of rubbish when you say that your processor goes at a scale that doesn't even apply properly to it. MBPS is used to measure network and internet connection activity, which doesn't do jack for processor speed.
lordshadowbane
23-11-04, 05:11 PM
This is pure blasphemy...
Burn him as a heretic
Blackfan
23-11-04, 06:03 PM
has anyone else gotten world of warcraft yet i have but i cant install right now i don't have the time
jonirenicus666
23-11-04, 11:04 PM
course i know how to run a computer, Kalos, was referring 2 my modem, AMD faster but slightly less reliable, Not getting 64-bit 4 a while. 1mbps fastest u can get with a plain modem at the moment aside from blue tooth. man if my CPU was 1 MHZ id be screwed, that said the one i got in 1990 (i fink) was about that. dont put too much faith in CPU speed, RAM and 3D card far more important. SATA 2 i guess.
Maybe i should have used all english so you could understand.
My computer and 1mbps (modem) own u all.
lol. well not really but it's a damn sight better than most of the stuff i c in war3x anyway.
Understand now children?
Reign of Kalos
24-11-04, 09:17 AM
course i know how to run a computer, Kalos, was referring 2 my modem, AMD faster but slightly less reliable, Not getting 64-bit 4 a while. 1mbps fastest u can get with a plain modem at the moment aside from blue tooth. man if my CPU was 1 MHZ id be screwed, that said the one i got in 1990 (i fink) was about that. dont put too much faith in CPU speed, RAM and 3D card far more important. SATA 2 i guess.
Maybe i should have used all english so you could understand.
My computer and 1mbps (modem) own u all.
lol. well not really but it's a damn sight better than most of the stuff i c in war3x anyway.
Understand now children?
Don't call us children. And you're wrong about AMD. On average it's the Intel's that are faster in terms of raw GHZ, but less reliable, not the other way around. AMD are the slower but more dependent, and make up for thier clock speed in other fashions.
Ram is of little consquence as well. One gig of any brand as long as it isn't faulty is good, it doesn't really matter what it is as long as it's got as much memory as it says on the can and the simplest to install over your lunch break. And I've ran some pretty damn good game such as doom 3 on crappy video cards. There are ways to trade raw processor speed and spare ram to aid the failing card in it's operation. Alone enough processor speed could take over the job of the GPU, the graphics card completely. My master server doesn't even have a graphics card, it doesn't need one as it has no screen to speak of. It's just connected to other computers on the network to exercise control. Graphics card doesn't make any difference to the essential operation of a computer at all, just makes the picture prettier. I can't say the same for a computer that has no CPU.
jonirenicus666
24-11-04, 09:46 AM
amount of RAM, id like to see u run HL2 with a measly 64MB or 128.
and Intel is more reliable, s'long as teh other gear (MB etc) are designed (or "official" recognised) for good compatability.
3d cards again, depends on what apply to, but where rendering's concerned teh graffix card makes a big diffrence, if i slotted my old 8mb ATI rage pro into my current computer i'd have problems.
OK i exxagerated a bit, but i never said CPU dusnt matter. neither did i say Intel actually faster when it comes down to it, which as you so rightly agreed, it isnt.
Video card comes down to the old ATI VS NVIDEA (mainly) if we talkin HL2 doom3 etc.
I dont think i need to explain the prob (not major but v annoying) with older Nvideas (unfortunatly i do have one).
Any Mid range ATI shud see you through the next year at least.
128mb or 256mb shudnt really matter except with top models as u said (mebbe worse if low model graphics card), it;s the tech, id like to see u run doom 3 on a graphics card not supporting DX8 or above.
children, soz was pissed off, meh.
understand now adults, lol :y-crazy: :y-flowers :y-dunce:
EvilRyu
24-11-04, 03:14 PM
course i know how to run a computer, Kalos, was referring 2 my modem, AMD faster but slightly less reliable, Not getting 64-bit 4 a while. 1mbps fastest u can get with a plain modem at the moment aside from blue tooth. man if my CPU was 1 MHZ id be screwed, that said the one i got in 1990 (i fink) was about that. dont put too much faith in CPU speed, RAM and 3D card far more important. SATA 2 i guess.
Maybe i should have used all english so you could understand.
My computer and 1mbps (modem) own u all.
lol. well not really but it's a damn sight better than most of the stuff i c in war3x anyway.
Understand now children?
Here is my system specs.
Amd 64 3800+ (S939)
Nvidia Fx5900
1Gb Kingston Ram DDR 400
12X DVD writer
19" Benq Lcd monitor (12ms repsonse time)
1.5MBps download / 256Kps upload (ADSL internet connection.)
Plus much much more.
Muhahaha, I guess I pawn your ass LITTLE GRAND CHILDREN. :g grin:
Dusted Bones
24-11-04, 11:29 PM
Looks like it broke down to the normal pissing contest. :g tongue:
Anyway to get back on track does anyone know how much was finally decided on for the monthly fee to play WoW?
DB
also since some of you posting here seem to know a little have any of you tried the:
Saitek PC Gaming Keyboard? (104 keyboard with back lit led lighting, and a 9 button fully customizable keypad with 2 toggles for a total of 27 customizable keys.)
or the:
Razor Diamondback gaming mouse? (has 7 programmable buttons and advertised as one of the best mice for gaming. Shipped this month for sale I think.)
jonirenicus666
25-11-04, 01:42 AM
dunno about the razor, though if its anything like the previous attemps it'l be good but not Essential.
If i remember the Saiteks meant to be quite good couldnt say more than that without digging up stuff, i'm no hardware whizz, just kno a lil bit.
costs in US, gimme a sec
costs are 1month, 3months, 6months (permonths)
UK is, £9.00, £8.40 or £7.70
EU is E13.00 E12.00 or E11.00
US is $15.00 $14.00 or $13.00
so u pay each month, every 3 months, or every six months.
also u get 1 penny, cent or mini euro thing, off each of those but i rounded.
nice system ryu, slightly better than mine
namely ure 1.5mbps
and 5900FX (i hang my head in shame at my 256mb 5600FX)
I need 6800, or any ATI (more likely)
I only joke when i say pwn, but lots of peepes seem to be running much less.
64bit wont be making a massive difference (though it is faster and better it isnt using it's full potential) till they update windows (which looks like we're gunna be waiting for longhorn (delayed again(2006 i fink))), theres only one app i know of designed as cross 32bit 64bit (specifically for 64bit) and thats Cubase SX, i doubt many of u guys use that.
*takes a breath*
dont listen to the adverts, read articles or try it out ureself if u got money to burn.
oooo, incase any UKers dont know.
GAME is the official distributer for WOW in UK.
U can (and have been able to for a while) pre-order already contrary to blizz's press release,
they garuantee u access to the open beta. ""exclusive"" they say but i doubt that.
Any1 know the UK date for the open beta?
Id rather be a great grand child than a great grand father ryu u oldie. lol
ryu: :g shake: :y-sleep:
Moi: :lol:
hehe. piss piss.
jonirenicus666
25-11-04, 02:04 AM
omg, WOW europe posted about this 2day, it's comedy. and so true of so many MMORPGs.
http://thenoob.keenspace.com/d/20040608.html
Blackfan
25-11-04, 09:50 AM
guys i wouldnt reccomend getting it it is a ripoff if you got you can get a refund for the money you spent purchasing it if you havent created an account.
jonirenicus666
25-11-04, 10:54 AM
y u say that man?
True it's more hefty on the wallet than other MMORPGs.
rip of what, EQ/2?
it already teh fastest selling MMORPG in america.
Blizzard are known for there Finesse in first releases and generally high quality.
Reign of Kalos
25-11-04, 11:05 AM
y u say that man?
True it's more hefty on the wallet than other MMORPGs.
rip of what, EQ/2?
it already teh fastest selling MMORPG in america.
Blizzard are known for there Finesse in first releases and generally high quality.
High quality? Talk to some of the people who have actually played it, and I don't mean the beta test, the full retail. The immense item looting lag is back, servers are desyncing, it's worse than it was originally in the beta because there are that many more people. The severs are just overloaded. So most people are just getting a really crappy deal. Lag of over 10 minutes, just to pick up a damn item; now that's a fine trademark of a quality, finished product. Especially one that had been in testing for months to work out bugs just like this, that were in the test and were reported, but have just been ignored by employees of Blizzard, probably hoping "It'd just go away". Definently not a quality product, and certainly not worth paying for. Maybe if they fixed the massive flaw, it might be brilliant, but as it is it's pretty much useless.
jonirenicus666
25-11-04, 11:09 AM
they said in their release they're gunna fix the lagg prob.
What about the stress tests man? I'm gunna save it and judge for myself.
It's been out one day in teh US, dont u think that's a little soon to declare it Bull****?
I'm sure they'll sort it all in time, any other probs i shud be aware of?
Edit: Galaxies isnt free of lag, pretty damn good though. just an overwhelming demand, they obviously over advertised, hehe lol :y-square:
Reign of Kalos
25-11-04, 11:13 AM
they said in their release they're gunna fix the lagg prob.
What about the stress tests man? I'm gunna save it and judge for myself.
It's been out one day in teh US, dont u think that's a little soon to declare it Bull****?
I'm sure they'll sort it all in time, any other probs i shud be aware of?
I didn't declare it to be bull. I declared that it was far from a quality product. They've had months to fix this error, people have been yelling at Blizzard throughout the test about it. It's a little late to start fixing it now, thier customers, paying by the month now might I add, are spending hours just in constant lag due to overburdened servers. Now tell that is a good game. They've had the time to fix it, and apparently nothing has been done, it's had it to the stores, and it's already run into problems on it's maiden voyage. What was the point in testing if even the most crippling errors remain?
jonirenicus666
25-11-04, 11:15 AM
then they're gunna learn a v harsh lesson, it wont be the same prob in a month, or less.
Reign of Kalos
25-11-04, 11:21 AM
then they're gunna learn a v harsh lesson, it wont be the same prob in a month, or less.
Why? Honestly why? They've had months to fix it. Why would one more make even the sightest difference? More people are pouring online as the copies are delieved through the mail systems. It's going to get worse before it get better. It will fix itself eventually. People will just grow bored and log off for good, losing thier income. The public are fickle, if they don't get the services they want, they'll just go elsewhere. Stress testing apparently didn't convice Blizzard of the need to prepare better, it's a little late to start rushing fixes now. They had the beta for that. That was the whole point, so the grand opening isn't just a spectacular lagfest.
jonirenicus666
25-11-04, 11:28 AM
theyll have to fix it. That's all, and IF they've caught on then they must be doing they're best to. If they ignored it before they probably had a reason, these people are doing a job not some hobby in their spare time.
If u dont do ure job u get fired (well, not strictly true but let's say it is for simplicity's sake).
They'll fix it man, u neva know, they might have sorted it 4 the EU version.
Reign of Kalos
25-11-04, 11:37 AM
theyll have to fix it. That's all, and IF they've caught on then they must be doing they're best to. If they ignored it before they probably had a reason, these people are doing a job not some hobby in their spare time.
If u dont do ure job u get fired (well, not strictly true but let's say it is for simplicity's sake).
They'll fix it man, u neva know, they might have sorted it 4 the EU version.
But it shouldn't have to be fixed now. The stress test highlighted the problems, and currently there are less players online than the first day of open beta. I love this company, and I love thier games. But this is not quality. This is downright poor, and shouldn't have made it to retail if the servers are already crapping out when there are so much more who are going to recieve thier copies over the next few days. These people even acknowledged the lag during the beta. Thier solution? Move to another server. Sadly now that's not working as most have gone into overload. Saying "they had a reason" isn't good enough. Many people would like to know why a product that is obviously high quality from the information given is falling short due to a lack of general prepareness. It's damaging it's long term playability, first impressions are the ones that hold strongest. And they've sent out a damn powerful one to those who have loyally bought it in early.
This launch was important for thier main fanbase. If they did this, why would they put any more effort in for EU? I forsee a better start yes, but still complications. This rush seems to have caught them by suprise, and for experts in the field it shouldn't have. It's with this for most high profile releases, it's expected by even the gamers for the newest to be jumped upon like solid gold.
This game has lots of potential, to be massive. This is Blizzard we are dealing with. This smear is just more than a tiny bit damaging.
jonirenicus666
25-11-04, 11:48 AM
trooth trooth, First impressions are the strongest, but just cos u get a poor first impression doesnt mean people will instantly drop it and demand their money back.
They, should have been able to cope but arent. If they want it to work they'll have to fix it, it's that simple.
I shouldnt have to be fixed, but it does. Hindsight is a wonderful tool is it not. it's not going to be like this forever. the past cant be changed.
It's bad practise to piss off (and all over) ure customers, theyll fix it. continual ranting does nothing man.
Edit: despite all the controlled testing they're hardly experts in MMO.
mistakes have been made, now they justt need to be given a chance.
Reign of Kalos
25-11-04, 11:56 AM
trooth trooth, First impressions are the strongest, but just cos u get a poor first impression doesnt mean people will instantly drop it and demand their money back.
They, should have been able to cope but arent. If they want it to work they'll have to fix it, it's that simple.
I shouldnt have to be fixed, but it does. Hindsight is a wonderful tool is it not. it's not going to be like this forever. the past cant be changed.
It's bad practise to piss off (and all over) ure customers, theyll fix it. continual ranting does nothing man.
Edit: despite all the controlled testing they're hardly experts in MMO.
mistakes have been made, now they justt need to be given a chance.
Yeah you're right. I jsut wonder how much it'll cost them in the long run? The master chiefs of the gaming industry, on thier knees unable to cope with the no doubt pridictable swarm of players. It just doesn't sound right. I would have expected more from the pros of the industry to have lost control.
they had the chances to fix in the test remember? How many chances do you need to get things done? And that's just it: They are experts, there are none that can confession to having so many multiplayer hit games done. If they didn't think they were up to it, that they're not that good in the area, then they should have been doubly so careful in thier instruction.
jonirenicus666
25-11-04, 12:00 PM
yeah but not any MMO games, but i have no doubt they have people from EQ and others on their team. slog as they fix it soon the damage should be fairly insignificant in the long term. Master Chiefs? thats a pretty debateable claim man.
u play the EU beta? thing with the beta is numbers were limited, no?
They have lost some credability but i dont think enough people willabandon it if they sort it out. alot of people really want this game.
jonirenicus666
25-11-04, 12:07 PM
wow this is starting to become a popular thread, well with us anyway.
Reign of Kalos
25-11-04, 12:12 PM
yeah but not any MMO games, but i have no doubt they have people from EQ and others on their team. slog as they fix it soon the damage should be fairly insignificant in the long term. Master Chiefs? thats a pretty debateable claim man.
u play the EU beta? thing with the beta is numbers were limited, no?
They have lost some credability but i dont think enough people willabandon it if they sort it out. alot of people really want this game.
Take one look at thier achievements in the past. Then tell me they aren't one of the industries front runners. They are one of the best undisputably. And that's just it. The beat was limited. Apparently overpopulation was a problem too. Sadly you can't just turn around to people who have already bought thier ticket to play and say "Sorry, too many, we have your money already, but you'll have to wait" Tell me who is going to accept that? If they wanted to limit the numbers, they shouldn't have let the retailers buy so many, to sell onto the public shouldn't they? And you'll be suprised how similar this game is to warcraft three in terms of coding and data storage. The old MPQ syste is still in use for one thing. They haven't magically reinvented the word game and made a unique one, it's just a different playstyle to what was there already, with several of the old tricks still in play. Take a look inside the MPQ files if you don't believe me. I see lots of familiar file extentions, which when opened with the right tools show very similar things to what we've seen before. My point? It's not all that different. MMO's are just same old, with constant online activity. Nothing special or magically different. So don't use this excuse on me unless you're willing to go into technical terms and prove to me a radical and different change which has never been seen before by Blizzard.
But this is pointless. We agree in the end. Some will play on, willing to see it through. Others will leave for the more reliable.
jonirenicus666
25-11-04, 12:19 PM
"one of the front runners" is a bit different to master chief man (though undeniably Blizz have produced some astounding titles).
I won't go into technical terms man because i'm sure i couldnt debate against ure wealth of knowledge, I'd be suprised if it really is "that" similar man. I think people will wait a bit, and Blizzard kinda have a month.
the only prob with the more reliable is it's not Azeroth, and i think that's what will keep people on to se it through.
U gunna get it then despite all this?
Reign of Kalos
25-11-04, 12:49 PM
"one of the front runners" is a bit different to master chief man (though undeniably Blizz have produced some astounding titles).
I won't go into technical terms man because i'm sure i couldnt debate against ure wealth of knowledge, I'd be suprised if it really is "that" similar man. I think people will wait a bit, and Blizzard kinda have a month.
the only prob with the more reliable is it's not Azeroth, and i think that's what will keep people on to se it through.
U gunna get it then despite all this?
Oh yes. I've always supported this franchise, and will order across a copy from America, as soon as I have assurance that this problem has been semi-perminently resolved. I don't want a product that is going to give me frustration, and as so will wait until the act has been gotten together. I only hope Blizzard sees this a wake up call that wasn't seen in the beta, and do something other than tell people to not play. I can hope for repairs to be made, or for them to simply invest in better technology. Until then I'll stear clear.
Blackfan
25-11-04, 08:03 PM
i apologize but this is extremely dissapointing in this game all blizzard seems interested in is getting your money not customer satisfaction like they have with the previous games. Why should someone who just finished spending about 50 dollars have to spend even more after one month. in the past al online parts of blizzard have been a free accesory to their games which in my opinion is a good idea to get a steady stream of customers. but with this new approach there will be much less of people introducing their friends to the game because of the cost monthly. I mean netscape the internet provider cost less per month then world of warcraft. I have been so impressed with blizzards past games i had bought this game out of faith and that was my mistake if I had looked into it more deeply i would have seen that there was monthly billing which in my opinion is ridicoulus. This style game is a money sapper and I think that Blizzard will lose quite a few fans because of this games billing per month. as to the bugs i havent even gotten onto the service yet and I won't be. every game has a few bugs to work out initially but on a paytime game you cannot allow there to be bugs when customers are paying for that time. If they had made this game where you paid the upfront cost and that was it then I would be telling all of my friends to get the game but i will not tell my friends to get a game that is a monney sapper that is not focussed on customer satisfaction. Blizzard made a mistake by changing its objective they took the fun out of the game for me because it is not worth the thought of losing that much money. If I were to do that it would make it so that i would no longer be able to get a lab top to work on at college. Blizzards customer is majorly younger teens that donts make much money. it seems as though they are either trying to suck the money out of the kids parents or make it so that the kids allowance's go straight into that one product instead of producing more products and repeating the track they had been following. They had it where the upfront game had decent expense but it wasn't unreasonable because of the interaction with the other roleplayers in warcraft 3 and diablo. They made it so that a kids parent is going to be disenclined to allow their kid to play something that they have to put a credit card info down. It can make some grownups down right worried to the point of not allowing their kids to sign up. Because of that the kids will have to return for refunds or if their parents allow them the free month of game play then they can't get a refund at all. So the kid that has parents that don't want to pay for their kid to continue playing something that has already been paid for once will have lost around 50 dollars.
sorry if I have been abit long winded i needed to get that out.
jonirenicus666
26-11-04, 12:08 AM
U know the american version won't be usable on European servers? Well at least according to one of blizz's releases. they won't even be putting in s character transfer option to the EU version. Well i hope 2 c u there Kalos.
Blackfan: The difference with WOW is it's purely online, Admittably most of my warcraft and diablo is online these days but that's just a server to set up games (actually i dont know about diablo, i've never been thrown out of a game cos the host dissconnected). A sever populated by thousands requires a bit more Maintenance. Also given all the stuff MMO's normally add each month or every few months, realistically they've got to charge, though it does seem a bit steep compared to .
Besides there are plenty of non young teens who play blizz as well, In my opinion getting rid of some of the smaller people isnt such a bad thing, I don't crave "adult" games but at seventeen and far too many text based MMO's at my back i'm sick of younger people running around yellling w00t and stealing my damn gold.
Not that im SERIOUS (like serious sam, teh SERIOUS game) about gaming, im just a poor addict who needs his blizz fix.
Money a problem? I don't know about america but it's fairly easy to get a job here that pays much more than £9 a month, anyone can also get a "Solo" card which allows muchos online purchasing etc. *sighs*
If they've got an overwhelming demand it'd be stupid not to hold on to it. they won't tell people not to play.
EvilRyu
26-11-04, 01:23 AM
Um...umm..hhum.... it takes this old, wrinkly, slow grandpa about half a year to read your long posts Jonirenicus666 :g grin: , and it took me a while to type your name too :g laugh:
Well that big surge of Online players really took Blizz by suprise. Glad i didnt get the game on day 1. I think I have enough patience to give Blizz one more month to fix the bugs and deploy more servers, but i wont tolerate the 5-10minutes wait every time I log on, doesnt matter how good the game is, it will be a big turn-off.
In regard to monthly fees, I am hoping that Blizz will progressively reduce monthly fees as the game gets older.
uh..oh...this old bone of mine...got ta get rest :g vsad: :g-shake: :y-sleep: :y-sleep:
Reign of Kalos
26-11-04, 07:26 AM
U know the american version won't be usable on European servers? Well at least according to one of blizz's releases. they won't even be putting in s character transfer option to the EU version. Well i hope 2 c u there Kalos.
Blackfan: The difference with WOW is it's purely online, Admittably most of my warcraft and diablo is online these days but that's just a server to set up games (actually i dont know about diablo, i've never been thrown out of a game cos the host dissconnected). A sever populated by thousands requires a bit more Maintenance. Also given all the stuff MMO's normally add each month or every few months, realistically they've got to charge, though it does seem a bit steep compared to .
Besides there are plenty of non young teens who play blizz as well, In my opinion getting rid of some of the smaller people isnt such a bad thing, I don't crave "adult" games but at seventeen and far too many text based MMO's at my back i'm sick of younger people running around yellling w00t and stealing my damn gold.
Not that im SERIOUS (like serious sam, teh SERIOUS game) about gaming, im just a poor addict who needs his blizz fix.
Money a problem? I don't know about america but it's fairly easy to get a job here that pays much more than £9 a month, anyone can also get a "Solo" card which allows muchos online purchasing etc. *sighs*
If they've got an overwhelming demand it'd be stupid not to hold on to it. they won't tell people not to play.
Well the European servers are still in closed anyway so yeah. Several people in the UK have grabbed an American version, to link up to the servers there. Hate to say that it hasn't done that much good.
Any way, I was expecting a better performance from a game which now charges on a time basis.
jonirenicus666
26-11-04, 01:02 PM
soz bout the length ryu, so much to say. U shud try some cod liver oil and **** for that rheumatism of your's.
It'd be even worse from the UK, unless u got some uber mega modem. Maybe that's the problem, all these dang desperate brits are lagging the American game to **** and back, ban them, lol.
I wait for it here, free open beta access, yay. the bastards refused me Closed cos i was a 56kr this summer.
i reckon it'l be at least 2 years before they consider lowering prices. and the six month plan thing aint too bad.
majestik
30-11-04, 04:42 AM
:y-thumbsu now ı m not play it but ı will buy it and ı say my advice ..... :y-sealed: now u say your advice :y-kiss:
g00d4n0thing
30-11-04, 02:48 PM
Well, I'll be playing it as soon as I get it. Preordered it from this site, haven't gotten it yet....mmm, anyone else here do that?
jonirenicus666
03-12-04, 12:04 AM
depends which site u ordered it from and where u are, if ure Uk and didnt order from GAME or Blizz's partner (game something) u'll have 2 wait till feb.
If ure in america then it shud be on its way to you any day now.
anywhere else, i dont know.
Blizz have sorted the problem and gone one step further to remedie it, told u they'd sort it man, have faith in that which you've believed in for so long.
[Quote]
Trial Period Extension
Print News | Mail News
Good news! Blizzard will be reimbursing players for the server downtime and lag that occurred the first few days of release by extending the length of the trial period on each account. Everyone who created an account between November 23 and 26 will receive an extension of between 1 and 4 days.
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World of Warcraft's record-setting first week brought hundreds of thousands of players together to adventure in Azeroth. The extremely high concurrency numbers that we've seen since the game's launch have required us to double our total number of servers over a four-day period, which is much faster than we had initially planned. This caused some issues with a few servers, and some players had difficulty logging in to the game during this period.
We are determined to provide our players with the best experience possible. It is for that reason that we are extending the one-month trial-period for players who created accounts before or during the downtime. The length of the trial-period extension will be based on when the player's account was created:
Accounts created on November 23 will receive a 4-day extension
Accounts created on November 24 will receive a 3-day extension
Accounts created on November 25 will receive a 2-day extension
Accounts created on November 26 will receive a 1-day extension
Our sincere apologies go out to all who experienced service disruptions. As always, we appreciate your patience and support, and we wish you good luck in your adventures in Azeroth!
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mild disruption over no?
"then i saw her face.... now i'm a believer...." etc
Blizz have pulled through.
TheSwarm
03-12-04, 09:04 PM
Im not getting WoW mostly because the online pay. The Other reason, i played the beta and frozen throne seemed more fun.
In my opinion not worth buying
Not me, I hate most online games.
majestik
06-12-04, 11:37 AM
[QUOTE=Grunt2]Not me, I hate most online games.[/
which onlien games u like????? u play only poker onlien
myndreach
15-12-04, 05:31 AM
I'm currently playing along with my wife.
I'm Myndreach on Nathrezim, my wife is Tysh on Nathrezim.
She's a troll hunter, I'm a troll priest.
My alt is Scrae on the same server, an undead warlock.
majestik
20-12-04, 01:22 AM
ı bought beta version but ı saw a problem on game ım very angry and ı havent play it so ı start playing night onlien :y-drink: pls help me maybe problem on my computer ok :y-curtain :g-sick2:
Reign of Kalos
20-12-04, 01:53 AM
ı bought beta version but ı saw a problem on game ım very angry and ı havent play it so ı start playing night onlien :y-drink: pls help me maybe problem on my computer ok :y-curtain :g-sick2:
1. The beta version can't be bought for money. It's not for sale.
2. If it is the beta, then there SHOULD be bugs, that's the whole point of a beta, to find those bugs and report them. The beta isn't a free go, it is in testing still, expect bugs.
3. How exactly can we do anything to help? It could be anything. You just said an error. Your computer exploded? Game froze? We need more information. An error could be a million things.
majestik
20-12-04, 02:14 AM
1. The beta version can't be bought for money. It's not for sale.
2. If it is the beta, then there SHOULD be bugs, that's the whole point of a beta, to find those bugs and report them. The beta isn't a free go, it is in testing still, expect bugs.
3. How exactly can we do anything to help? It could be anything. You just said an error. Your computer exploded? Game froze? We need more information. An error could be a million things.
yes ı didnt bought ı wrote wrong sorry ı found this problem ı com have virus so ı dowload beta ıts have virus ı dowload illegal and ı com's system down :g-sick2: :g-sick2: :g-sick2: ıts work now ......do u have beta version pls send me its links undefined
Reign of Kalos
20-12-04, 02:21 AM
yes ı didnt bought ı wrote wrong sorry ı found this problem ı com have virus so ı dowload beta ıts have virus ı dowload illegal and ı com's system down :g-sick2: :g-sick2: :g-sick2: ıts work now ......do u have beta version pls send me its links undefined
That's not Blizzard's fault, it was a fake, a virus program dressed as the beta, designed to trick people. You have to be selected to get into the beta. You had to fill in a form back six months ago, then if you're lucky they later send you an email to allow you in to the beta with your own key. I don't have a key, and they are unique per person anyway. You can't have two people using the same one.
Even if you got the program for real, it won't do anything. You need that key to create a beta account, which is how you log on to do anything. Without it, the program is useless and will only show you the intro cinimatic. It's useless trying to get in, there's no way to get keys without being chosen.
The virus is your punishment for attempting to hack a Blizzard game. Enjoy your reward. There is no honour between thieves.
majestik
20-12-04, 02:35 AM
That's not Blizzard's fault, it was a fake, a virus program dressed as the beta, designed to trick people. You have to be selected to get into the beta. You had to fill in a form back six months ago, then if you're lucky they later send you an email to allow you in to the beta with your own key. I don't have a key, and they are unique per person anyway. You can't have two people using the same one.
Even if you got the program for real, it won't do anything. You need that key to create a beta account, which is how you log on to do anything. Without it, the program is useless and will only show you the intro cinimatic. It's useless trying to get in, there's no way to get keys without being chosen.
The virus is your punishment for attempting to hack a Blizzard game. Enjoy your reward. There is no honour between thieves.
hahah ok ı search now key thank u very much ı will start to play it ı very happy now but my com now work slow..........can u play the wow on onlien :y-idea: again thnk u very much see u soon
jonirenicus666
22-12-04, 01:32 AM
ure unlikeky to find any non banned or fake keys via kazaa or whatever, u might not stillbe able to buy them either, blizzard didnt like that ****. also they fetched up to £200. Sharing with a good mate wud be ure best bet, even then i dunnae think you cud go on at the same time, theyd have to be a good mate too.
majestik
22-12-04, 04:39 AM
ure unlikeky to find any non banned or fake keys via kazaa or whatever, u might not stillbe able to buy them either, blizzard didnt like that ****. also they fetched up to £200. Sharing with a good mate wud be ure best bet, even then i dunnae think you cud go on at the same time, theyd have to be a good mate too.
ı found a key in ares but ıts didnt download it..and it found ı cd key ı didnt play it ok have u palyed it what do you think about the game;????
jonirenicus666
29-12-04, 08:07 AM
i aint played it. will have in a week or so. it's not out in the UK yet but i'm in the last beta (aka "the demo"). Thing with keys distributed on the internet is once they were made public anyone could use them. Once an account was made with a key i doubt another could be made. Even if you could get into another account they varying IPs and trying to log on at the same time would probably alert blizzard. much like in Diablo II and Warcraft III.
Some sold their CD keys, on ebay etc. they sold well and fetched considerable sums for what they were. I'dve been tempted.
If ure in America go and buy it, or wait till they do a "free 'X' days" but that probably wont be for six months at least.
If ure in UK, pre-order and hope ure not too late to get beta access (which you may well be) GAME distribute it with the beta access. You can always cancel your order once you get the pre-order box (if).
bleh
majestik
29-12-04, 01:29 PM
i aint played it. will have in a week or so. it's not out in the UK yet but i'm in the last beta (aka "the demo"). Thing with keys distributed on the internet is once they were made public anyone could use them. Once an account was made with a key i doubt another could be made. Even if you could get into another account they varying IPs and trying to log on at the same time would probably alert blizzard. much like in Diablo II and Warcraft III.
Some sold their CD keys, on ebay etc. they sold well and fetched considerable sums for what they were. I'dve been tempted.
If ure in America go and buy it, or wait till they do a "free 'X' days" but that probably wont be for six months at least.
If ure in UK, pre-order and hope ure not too late to get beta access (which you may well be) GAME distribute it with the beta access. You can always cancel your order once you get the pre-order box (if).
bleh
ok thank u but ı live in the turkey so ı cant buy and ı cant go usa :y-candle: thank u ı fouund in ares
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