Can dragons use magic?

[Inquisistor7]

I was just wondering: in the Warcraft universe can dragons caast spells and all that?

[An evil person]

Well,the Blue dragon aspect,Malygos,is the aspect of magic,and I think the blue dragon from the Undead TFT campaign,Sapphiron, used Frost Nova...

So yes,i think dragons can use magic.

[lordshadowbane]

Of course they can. Thats how the NE got there immortality. Im pretty sure they can shapeshift. Everything can shapeshift in WOW.
DH's, druids, Balnazzer, Deathwing...
Btw wtf is with the heroes. There all enormous in size like the giant lich and Balnazzer.

[g00d4n0thing]

I thought Balnazzar was dead.....

[WarDragon]

Of course dragons can use magic! They are born with an innate talent for it, and (I presume) the only beings who may use arcane power without fear of corruption. Heck, Malygos practically invented wizardry.

[Aj Windshadow]

Obviously they can but i wonder if the lesser, young ones can too.
About the corruption part how did deathwing get corrupted ?
( i didnt read day of the dragons, cant buy it here ) and what was his name before he got corrupted,what was he the aspect of previously?

[WarDragon]

We don't know how Deathwing became corrupted. Before his fall, he was Neltharion, the Earth Warder, guardian of secrets.

[KaySeaGee]

Where physical corruption fails, mental corruption shall succeed.

Gogo Dreadlords!

[Aj Windshadow]

Maybe it was due to the arrival of the Legion or excessive use of arcane magic..

[yunn]

No... he was corrupted before the Legion arrived... though he did not show it to the other four Aspects. (Source: DotD)

EDIT: Come to think of it, maybe he had something to do with the Legion's coming, 'cos at that time the corruption seemed to be at a "beginning" phase. I don't know...

[Diskordjah]

doesnt seem Deathwings style, to cooperate with the off-world legion... I think he knows he couldnt control em properly, and he DID fight em in the WotA didnt he?

[KaySeaGee]

Well, when I was corrupted by the Legion that one time I didn't cooperate with them in the least. Maybe just having a rogue Aspect is sufficient for the Legion's plans.

[pbot]

Deathwing's corruption is explained in that ten page document that is a "precursor"to WoW.

[WarDragon]

What? They went and shone harsh light on one of the deepest, darkest, most intriguing mysteries in the WarCraft mythos? The only thing I can think of that even comes close is that one Marvel miniseries that expounded Wolverine's full origin; you can't help but want to know what it is, but you also feel that something sacred has passed away...

Anywho, what precursor document is this? Link?

[Kingcrazygenius]

Was it marrying my sister that made him evil?

[BornIn1142]

My sources from beyond the grave say... yes.

Anyway, http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/story/chapter1.shtml#6

"As the battle raged across the burning fields of Kalimdor, a terrible turn of events unfolded. The details of the event have been lost to time, but it is known that Neltharion, the Dragon Aspect of the Earth, went mad during a critical engagement against the Burning Legion. He began to split apart as flame and rage erupted from his dark hide. Renaming himself Deathwing, the burning dragon turned on his brethren and drove the five dragonflights from the field of battle."

[Kingcrazygenius]

Yeah, we all know that, but we want the details.

[BornIn1142]

Oh, I see......

I'll start making it up as soon as I get my money!
*clears throat meaningfully*

[perfectgamer911]

My sources from beyond the grave say... yes.

Anyway, http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/story/chapter1.shtml#6

"As the battle raged across the burning fields of Kalimdor, a terrible turn of events unfolded. The details of the event have been lost to time, but it is known that Neltharion, the Dragon Aspect of the Earth, went mad during a critical engagement against the Burning Legion. He began to split apart as flame and rage erupted from his dark hide. Renaming himself Deathwing, the burning dragon turned on his brethren and drove the five dragonflights from the field of battle."
it still doesn't say how he got corrupted only when.

[BornIn1142]

It doesn't SAY how. :y-annoyed
You didn't bother reading, did you?

[perfectgamer911]

yes I did read it, it only says that he went mad and burst into flames. It doesn't say what exactly made him go mad, so if you think you know, explain!

[BornIn1142]

Wow, I didn't realize I was a Blizzard employee...
Who are about the only ones who KNOW.

Where ever did I indicate that I "think I know"???

[perfectgamer911]

well than ask your sources from beyond the grave

[BornIn1142]

Not a yes or no question.

[Kingcrazygenius]

I once asked a quigi board if I would ever find true love, it told me to look six feet under :lurv:

[yunn]

Wow, I didn't realize I was a Blizzard employee...
Who are about the only ones who KNOW.I doubt many Blizzard employees know.

[BornIn1142]

Of course.
But they're the only group of people that we know for a FACT, that some of them do know.

[Aj Windshadow]

My sources from beyond the grave say... yes.

Anyway, http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/story/chapter1.shtml#6

"As the battle raged across the burning fields of Kalimdor, a terrible turn of events unfolded. The details of the event have been lost to time, but it is known that Neltharion, the Dragon Aspect of the Earth, went mad during a critical engagement against the Burning Legion. He began to split apart as flame and rage erupted from his dark hide. Renaming himself Deathwing, the burning dragon turned on his brethren and drove the five dragonflights from the field of battle."

Atleast we know he went corrupt at the time of war with the legion.
So corruption by the legion could be a possibility.

[TNHeartbreak]

From Well of Eternity, we learned that the Dragon Soul (later known as the Demon Soul) was made before the coming of the legion and he was long mad before the legion ever set foot on the plains of Kalimdor. As for the reason of his insanity, it was because the voice (evil spirit) of the Demon Soul controlled his mind willingly like Frostmourn controlled Arthas, but instead of taking Deathwing's soul, the Demon Soul have no hold over DeathWing other than the fact it drove him to an insane edge to think that all other flights betrayed him and wanted to steal his Dragon Soul.

[quetzalcoatl5]

As to the magic issue, I think they have to have a certain amount of understanding of what they're doing (See DotD) but have the most potential of any creature in its use.

[Darktyl]

I think Malygos himself is a fountain of magic, probably equal to that of the Well of Eternity.

As for the other Aspects, I think they was instilled with magic since their creation by the Titans. I mean the Titans made the Wells, they also made the Dragons. And there is noway for the dragons to protect Azeroth against the demons if they don't have magic.

The Titans doesnt' know about the Legions when they made Azeroth as they didn't know that Sageras formed the legion.

[Cerebral_009]

ArrrrrrrrrggggghhhhHHHHH!!!!


YES!

Dragons are intrinsically magical beings - they are an integral part of the material and metaphysical world! When a dragon dies, even a young one, casters and those attunded to the other planes of the world can feel it - hell, the land mourns their passing. Every dragon has the capacity to cast arcane and divine magics beyond the reach of almost any mortal creature.

That answers the quiestion.

*counts to ten and has a cup of tea*


... phew.

[Flinn Gaidin]

:y-crazy: :y-crazy: :y-crazy:
Darktyl nearly died...

[airgod]

:y-crazy: :y-crazy: :y-crazy:
Darktyl nearly died...
what do you meen ?

[Darktyl]

I'm a nether dragon aspect. Aspect of Terror. :g laugh:

[TNHeartbreak]

I know this isn't the right place for debates, but I really disagree with Darktyl.

A: Malygos power is nothing compare to the well, yes, he is powerful and almighty in magic, but the well? You can't be serious. And plz don't get mad, cause I am taking you through the steps one by one.

1. Well of Eternity is the center of the world, without it, the world would collasp. Malygos, on the other hand, is merely an aspect with great power, the world will continue to live on and maybe even unotice if Malygos dies one day.

2. Neltharion made the Dragon Soul, gathering all powers of the dragons. The artifact's power is beyond Neltharion himself, and the five aspects have a balance amount of power, that tells you of something. Plus the fact Archimonde wasn't afraid of the Dragon Soul when he saw it, proves that his belief in Sargeras's power is beyond the petty little gold disk.

3. Hello! The manual said the Titans finished shaping their little world and moved on, unaware of the Legion will discover its existance. Are you insane, no where in that did it say the Titans doesn't know who the Burning Legion is! Unaware that it will come to their world is different from not knowing it exist!

4. They didn't know Sargeras formed the Legion? You out of your mind, boy? Sargeras is their lost brother, the Titans not knowing what their lost brother is up to? The Legion invaded countless world, when the Titans shape Azeroth, they were probably taking over all other worlds. Titans watch their worlds being destroy by the demons, which is why they send out Sargeras in the first place. And they were surprised how the demons manipulated Sargeras's mind and didn't imagine how far their brother would go in destroying their worlds with his newfond army. They are trying not avoid direct conflict against the Legion, they aren't that ignorant to not know what Sargeras is doing to their beautiful worlds.

P.S. I think they are avoiding the Legion because they are afraid that whatever the Dreadlords did to their brother, the Dreadlords will do the same to them also. They'd rather clean up the mess the demons created than direct confrontation, no matter how weak and puny the Legion is compare to them.

[perfectgamer911]

the dreadlords didn't do anything to their brother, their brother went mad way before the dreadlords were discovered by Sargeras.

[twisted orc]

the dreadlords didn't do anything to their brother, their brother went mad way before the dreadlords were discovered by Sargeras.
The dreadlords was disco0vered ages before these...

[TNHeartbreak]

but the manual said that during his time as the Champion of Titans, Sargeras defeated two of the largest demonic races. A race of dark warlock magic users, the Eredars, and a race of physic vampires, also known as the Nathrimzim. Though the bronze titan defeated them single handedly with ease, the Nathrizim's corruption went deep and confused Sargeras with doubts. Despite his brothers persuasion of their doings were right.......

anyways, that's where Sargeras came with the conclusion that the demons were failure of the Titan's creation, it was the Titan's fault they exist in the first place. And so, he freed the demons locked in the Twisted Nether, and the demons bowed eternal loyalty to him. He chosen two of the most powerful eredar warlocks as his left and right hand, Archimonde the Defiler, Kil'jaeden the.......

So what I am trying to say is that, Yes, the dreadlords were found way before. But their corruption went deep into Sargeras as Sargeras does his job, and that's how he became evil.

[Darktyl]

I don't remember seeing anywhere that the legion was known in the manual by the titans. They know that there was something wrong with Sageras, not that he went and formed the Legion.

[TNHeartbreak]

I don't have the manual with me, *i don't play warcraft* but if you say so. I just thought this might be an interesting subject, but I have no direct prove, so I guess we're leading nowhere. unless someone have some hard evidence, then I guess this subject is over.

(Haven't anyone wonder why this thread is back up? I keep digging up old threads from like 3 to 4 months past, cause i thought we could answer/restart some old discussions that weren't really well-discussed.)

[SummonLemming]

TNH, that's wonderful and all, but the Titans didn't know their brother actually created the Legion. And I quote from pages 134-135 of the Warcraft III Reign of Chaos Game Manual, "Storming from their ranks forever, Sargeras set out to find his own place in the universe. Though the Pantheon was sorrowful for his departure, they would never believe just how far the lost brother would go." and "Apparently unaware of Sargeras' mission to undo their myriad works, the Titans continued to move from world to world, shaping and ordering them as they saw fit."

The conclusion you say Sargeras came to was incorrect as well. Page 134, same source states "Sargeras began to believe that the concept of order itself was folly- and that chaos and depravity were the only absolutes within the dark, lonely universe." Nothing about demons being the Titan's failure.

[TNHeartbreak]

Thanx alot, been hoping for something like that. Now we cleared that up, lets move on. Thanks again!