WHY DOES evryone like DOTA

[Dublo7]

Defense of the ancients is not even good and everyone likes it it is the lamest game i hate it Why Does everyone like it it anoys me how they say pros only well basiclly no body are pros Who likes Dota and who doesnt if u like it give me a reason

[SteniS]

because they suck at ladder games?

Played it a couple of times... IMO it's boring. Battle Ships is way cooler!

[Walach]

i like dota, want to play me in a custom game 1on1 (no ums).

i don't suck at ladder, but i just find it really boring and repetitive. in dota you can go random if it gets boring (which i do everytime), and there are like 27 heroes for you to get if you go random.. more variety than the 4 races in w3 imo.

[Sniper Lord 600]

well even though there are many hero choices like 24 as wal said i still think DOTA is boring in the way that it can and usually does go on for hours, just back and forth battles, go back heal hero, go back own some units, go back heal hero, etc. etc. etc.
-yeah it just goes, on IMO footie frenzy is better :D

[timmy]

well, i like it sometimes becouse it challenges your mirco skills with a hero...
BUT, i hate it many times becouse it is so imba. and if you dont know wich heros are good becouse you never played before, you choose a sucky hero, and they only die, then you leave becouse it gets booring and then everybody hates you becouse you leaved...
so, overall, i play it sometimes, but only IF im playing custom and i cant find a ToB game :g tongue:

[SteniS]

I like to host Clash of the Footmen... IMO it is the only footmen wars map that hasn't turned into a hero arena...

Sometimes I host Battle of Gondor TFT 7.0 ... that map is so cool but if evil is noob sometimes it gets boring...

[disjuku]

micro skills and dota? *laughs* Using one hero and nothing else its piss easy to micro.

People play it because its n00b, made with ultra high stats etc. Requires very little skill and goes for hours. No idea why that draws people in, but somehow it does...

Footman frenzy is good, thats what I normally play, but there is hardly ever anyone good playing it - they hardly ever think about countering their oponents - so maybe its just different types of people in general who play the custom games :/

[Walach]

that's one biased opinion, dota requires no skill and footie frenzy does? :bigclap:

[disjuku]

No, i'm not saying it requires lots of skill, although I DO think it requires more than dota...

the point about dota is that things are all over powered... I mean, playing some game, two of us against one guy on the other team, the other guy knew how to do the whole item combination thing, and just because of that was killing us with one hit... as far as I can see, one hit kills like that dont make for a good game.

[lordshadowbane]

For some reason all good Dota players are great UD players. And vice versa. I wonder why...

[A-Thousand-Lies]

I wonder too how so many people like it. There are at least six games of it being hosted everytime I go on Azeroth.

[Walach]

just because you suck with dota doesn't mean it's completely imba.

the items aren't THAT imba, it's the heroes that make them imba.

anyway, i don't play that much footie frenzy because i don't like it. it's.... very boring imo, the map is too small for so many people running around.

no fair fights, when player a hits player b, player c can backstab one of the two. that's luck to me.

[lordshadowbane]

I like
1. Dark Deeds 6
2. World of Warcraft Reborn
3. Footmen Frenzy
4. EOTA
5. DOTA

[Dragolas77]

It is annoying with the items... for example, this drow archer in allrandom got 6 rings that regened 3 hp per sec each and doubled spell resistance EACH...

[rexxxar]

there are a lot of good people who love dota. personally i like it because it gives a break from the repitition and seriousness of ladder.

and to the people who say its all luck and totally imbalanced, i win 90% of my games when i go random, if it was totally based on luck this would be impossible.

[Dragolas77]

It's not the heroes, it's the items IMO... whatever...

[AsianGlory]

People like DOTA because they think it's fun. If you think it's boring compared to ladder, then go play ladder more. Don't try to force your opinions on them.

[Ledge And]

Lets have a little matchup of ppl who like dota vs ppl who dont here. I bet anti dota ppl dont even win a game.

[disjuku]

Lets have a little matchup of ppl who like dota vs ppl who dont here. I bet anti dota ppl dont even win a game.
I dont like it and that doesn't have anything to do with how good/bad I am at it, no doubt if I played it more I would get better. I don't like it because I think it is a poorly made map.

[Ledge And]

I dont like it and that doesn't have anything to do with how good/bad I am at it, no doubt if I played it more I would get better. I don't like it because I think it is a poorly made map.

I meant at solo my bad. For all the ppl that think dota players are garbage ladder players

[Walach]

go legend go legend :y-pet:

[Weyngott]

DotA is good cause of it's custom spells, it's rare you see things like that. And it's that making DotA funny. Footman Frenzy is also good and I enjoy it with a original hero, but DotA is fantastic. And I agree with lordshadowbane, World of WarCraft Reborn rules. :y-thumbsu

[timmy]

ofcource, you dont need much skills to play dota, but i first had VEERY bad hero skills, so my hero died everytime i had a battle, then i started to play custom games, and also thanx to dota, it helped me to get better hero skills
now i only play it sometimes if im realy boored :g wink:

[MiStile.Karma]

I agree dota is a very bad map, its the same thing over and over agian. There is on stratige involved at all other than ganging up to kill someone. Also in the newer versions is is getting even worse, the pace of the game has gone up quite a bit. In the older versions there were a few overpowered heros one each team but instead of making them weaker they made all the others stronger. This in turn made it so fights between heros far less intreesting and before the fight even starts it is not hard to tell who will win.

[AsianGlory]

You're talking about allstars.

Besides, ladder is also the same thing over and over again. You'd be surprised at how much team coordination is required to compete at high-level official DoTA.

[KrAzY WaRRiOr]

Footie Frenzy is 80% about the heroes. Overpowered ones like DK and Avalanche and Cattle Bruiser kind of ruin the game, unless you are a good player. I always scout with a footie before I pick my hero. If I see 5 DK, i'll get a pally, and rely on my partners to lvl the Pally up and own the DKs. Likewise, if I see avalanche, i'll go CattleCruise because avalanche has ridiculous armor and is almost impossible to kill w/ physical damage, it falls to the Hero Killing spells that CB has.

Still, it does get boring if one team goes all DK's and kills everyone's hero in one hit.

DOTA is a good game, I LOVE the custom spells, its the only reason I play it. There are also a lot of heroes and items, which make it interesting. I hate TOB, I think its ridicoulsy slow and boring. No good items, very slow gameplay = no thanks. The spells and models are cool though.

[disjuku]

Yeah, heros are ok at the start of the game, but later in the game they are just way too over powered and its just a case of everything getting taken out by one screwed up hero... although some of them are easy to counter, others are just beyond countering.

The worst thing about it in my mind is the way that you more or less know whos going to win straight from the start - as soon as someone gets a little way ahead its almost impossible to beat them.

but still, custom spells are in many maps, and lots of heros/items. Its the way that everything is over powered...

[WhosYourDaddy]

DotA offers a more variety of entertainment? Anyway, dota is fun cos it offers a different way of playing and clan battles really have high standard, dota is also eaiser to learn and master and many pple that may not do well on ladder can play dota very well.

[disjuku]

hmm, you are all comparing it to ladder, thats not the point, the point is that there are custom games which we think are much much better than dota, so why do they play that when there are better games to play? I mean... what makes it so much better than all the other games?

[Dragolas77]

You like DOTA more than TOB??? Whatever... AG said it best, i won't force opinions... but two things

1: Unique spells? Didn't the maker of allstars use a spell generator for his spells?

2: TOB may start slow, but stick with it, just because one of the heroes can't attack 100 times a second at the beginning with bash... -_-

[AsianGlory]

hmm, you are all comparing it to ladder, thats not the point, the point is that there are custom games which we think are much much better than dota, so why do they play that when there are better games to play? I mean... what makes it so much better than all the other games?
Because some people's ideas of fun are different than other people's. I find DoTA to be fun. And the whole idea about DoTA being for people who suck at ladder has already been disproven.

Allstars sucks bad, I agree. Official DOTA >>>>>>>>>> TOB >>>>>>>> Allstars.

I don't like TOB, because the games tend to take forever, and throughout the hours that each game takes up, the tide of the game rarely shifts.

[FootmenForLife]

I prefer RoC DOTA over allstars dota. I played an allstars dota game tonight and realized how much I've hated it and why I do. Allstars takes forever to load, its laggy no matter what I do, its ridiculously imbalanced (but since all heroes are imbalanced, stuff balances out) and the fact that its a free for all with no xp denial methods is stupid.

[Cyanyde]

Just like to point out that there is a DIRECT port of the original dota into TfT with a few new things. It's still as balanced as the old one.

It's not getting played much though because people like having +200 damage and killing heroes in seconds with a troll who has +250% IAS and a 15% bash as well as 2 other items that give him bash as well.

[lavrenz]

I really liked AOS Epic Mithril back in RoC. It was before TOB and DOTA and it was like TOB where you could build towers to increase unit production and upgrade your units and also buy hero buffs. Very similar to TOB just didn't take as long.

DOTA Allstars is too imbalanced for me. I've played it a few times, but if you get a bad hero you auto lose. Kinda sucks :(

[Lejond]

Just like to point out that there is a DIRECT port of the original dota into TfT with a few new things. It's still as balanced as the old one.

It's not getting played much though because people like having +200 damage and killing heroes in seconds with a troll who has +250% IAS and a 15% bash as well as 2 other items that give him bash as well.

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[DragonKain]

Or maybe it's because...

PEOPLE SPOOF SPAM DOTA GAMES ALL THE DAMN TIME?!

Seriously, think about it, why would there be 10+ games of DotA out there if they could all join each other's games?

[Thunderblade]

Sure, if you play public DotA games, its everything you listed, and even worse. However, try getting better at DotA, and trying to get into high level inhouse games, pref. clan matches. It's a ton more strategy than you think at first, after seeing your first public DotA game. Everything is done with precision, sometimes over Ventrillo or Teamspeak.

Maybe if you play DotA once or twice you will think things are imbalanced. But try playing with players that don't just whine (private games), and try not whining yourself. Unless you just leave the second you get owned, you might actually have fun. Think about it. There MUST be a reason that many high level ladder players are converting into DotA players.

You claim that DotA is all the same thing, over and over. Try playing a newer version, not just once, a couple of times. It's not the same thing. Not even CLOSE to the same thing. Now, take ladder games. Same...old...thing. Sure, either I could move my hero to point A, or maybe a centimeter off to point B. Generally, its the same gist of things. With 24 hero choices and growing in DotA, games are always different, and the skill of players really determines the winner, not just who can get "teh ubar countar".

[DreadDKN]

There's a place for all games. DOTA takes more decision making than most people think. Will a refresher orb or aegis of the immortal help more? Can my mage hero take out an assassin? Where are their heroes? Can I lurk in their side of the map without taking much damage. Is it okay for me to sacrifice myself and take down a tower?

That's a long list, I know. But it does illustrate the fact that DOTA, at its best, takes just as much skill as any custom game. Also i would like to point out I play Enfos, TDs, Battleships, and melee. I am not a DOTA fanboy. :y-evil:

[Clicks]

I agree with the threadstarter. There is way to much hype about Defense of the Ancient, too much, infact for me to understand. Of course this is only my opinion, but just as much, I don't know why it's so popular.

[Walach]

playing vs newbies, of course, doesn't require any skill.

but if you're playing a fair match of equal number of players vs another group of player of the same number, then things get much harder.

there's first the hero choices, you want the best heroes, but also the heroes who support each other the best. you need tactics, to gang on 1-2 guys at the same time, then killing his tower off when their team has 1-2 guys less for a while, etc.

vs noobs, nothing is hard, vs good players, or at least, players with a brain, it will become harder.

[DragonKain]

Sure, if you play public DotA games, its everything you listed, and even worse....
Would help if we knew -which- DotA you were talking about.... -.-

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